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  • From: Chris Lumpkin <clumpkin@gmail.com>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] FW: New rocket mass heater kickstarter
  • Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2015 14:35:18 -0400

If you haven't learned this yet from your commune with nature:

- Water what you want to grow. Put your energy into what you love, not what
you hate.

- Bring an open mind, joy, love, and tolerance to your dealings with
others. Be prepared to listen to ideas you don't like or agree with.

- If you engage in argument or criticism, do it constructively and use
logic and reason to make your points, not personal attacks.

- Remember: we all can grow and change. The person you hated yesterday may
not exist any longer, and now who's the fool?

- "Resentment is like drinking poison and waiting for the other person to
die."

I hope I am offending the right people when I say, I am sick of hearing
people on this list malign others in the community. All the whining and
complaining about those you perceive as "ruining permaculture" with
capitalism, or by being charlatans and stealing your money...

Don't give them your money.

Don't give them your time.

Recognize that your personal resentments are not aligned with permaculture
principles, and many people who do practice those principles may disagree
with you about the best way to bring those principles to others.

You may not like Paul Wheaton, but he would never let someone bad-mouth you
on his forums.

Please consider "taking the high road", and working out your resentments
and bitterness in a more appropriate, maybe even private, space.

Sincerely,
Chris Lumpkin

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Steve Hart <stevenlawrencehart@gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Scott....is this coming from the same energy that was exposed
> some
> > time ago about a previous campaign where people lost out ?
> >
>
> Exactly the same source, Paul Wheaton. You should see that one in action in
> a video about, get this, Wheaton Labs;
> big fat pompous slob now introducing himself as just "Paul", probably name
> change to protect the guilty. He has finally arrived, #2 permaculture used
> car salesman, the odious vlad #1. All working against everything we believe
> to be real,
> authentic and worthwhile in permaculture. Wheaton is trying to 1) make lots
> of money off permaculture and fools 2) create a faux permaculture movement
> 3) work against everyone we respect in the permaculture movement 4) apply
> witheringly horrible and odious ayn rand philosophy to the permaculture
> movement ["help Paul with his conspiracy to rule the world"].
>
> Enough of that garbage
>
> >
> > Steve Hart
> >
> > On 13 March 2015 at 05:02, Scott Pittman <scott@permaculture.org> wrote:
> >
> > > This came to my email unsolicited with no link to unsubscribe. I have
> a
> > > deep suspicion of anyone who keeps piling on the goodies to sell me
> > > something. I'm surprised there is no Batman mask and a Green Lantern
> > ring.
> > >
> > > This is the most odious form of capitalism and it contaminates
> > > permaculture.
> > >
> > > Scott
> > >
> > > "To change something build a new model that makes the existing model
> > > obsolete" Buckminster Fuller
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: paul wheaton [mailto:forums@permies.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 4:37 PM
> > > To: paul wheaton
> > > Subject: New rocket mass heater kickstarter
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > You are getting this email because you are registered for the forums at
> > > permies.com. I think it has been about a year since I have sent you
> all
> > an
> > > email!
> > >
> > > I have a kickstarter that has an update for my rocket mass heater DVDs.
> > Not
> > > only are the new DVDs professionally videoed with professional sound,
> > but I
> > > want to make sure that my kickstarter supporters get FAR more goodies
> > than
> > > the people that get into this stuff later.
> > >
> > > For this new kickstarter I've made it so that for just $1 you get:
> > >
> > > - a micro documentary about rocket mass heaters
> > > - 19 podcasts about rocket mass heaters (25 hours)
> > > - (optional) public thanks
> > >
> > > For $2 you get that plus:
> > >
> > > - Full "how to plans" for the beautiful "bonny" rocket mass heater
> > > (currently selling for $25)
> > > - The Rocket Mass Heater in a Greenhouse plans (not yet released)
> > > - The Permaculture Playing Cards eBook
> > > - Podcasts 201-280
> > >
> > > For $3 you get that plus:
> > >
> > > - pdf "3 Stoves for $3 or Less"
> > > - album "Permaculture: A Rhymer's Manual" by Formidable Vegetable
> > >
> > > At $5 you get that plus:
> > >
> > > - The streaming version of the full DVD "Fire Science"
> > > - Access to the permies.com secret inner circle
> > >
> > > And more and more and more until you can get all four of the full
> length
> > > DVDs as a download (plus everything listed above) for $40.
> > >
> > > If nothing else, please check out the video for this - I think it
> turned
> > > out
> > > really good!
> > >
> > > The thread about it at permies, complete with video, pictures, comments
> > and
> > > more:
> > >
> > > http://permies.com/t/44266
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sign up for my daily-ish email, or my devious plots for world
> > > domination: http://richsoil.com/email
> > >
> > >
> > > sent to forum user scott@permaculture.org
> > >
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