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  • From: Tripp Tibbetts <slowfoodguy@yahoo.com>
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  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] PCNutrition- Ref Rhodiola, Reducing Salt Intake, etc.
  • Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 10:24:39 -0800 (PST)

Maybe I'm a simpleton but I find that when my body craves salt and fat that
eating a little salt and fat usually does the trick...
 
Tripp



The best fertilizer is the gardener's shadow.
-Chinese proverb
 

--- On Mon, 11/2/09, LINDARAY@att.net <LINDARAY@att.net> wrote:


From: LINDARAY@att.net <LINDARAY@att.net>
Subject: [permaculture] PCNutrition- Ref Rhodiola, Reducing Salt Intake, etc.
To: "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Monday, November 2, 2009, 7:11 PM


Hi Larry,

I have concentrated on the study of herbs for most of my life, I'm really
glad to read of your interest in them as well- From what I have already read
of your posts, it doesn't surprise me one bit; I'm also an avid (dry-pack)
food storage and chef-type person <VBG>.

Anyway, Rhodiola is an herb which is useful for recovery from Adrenal fatigue
(I found that out after I no longer needed it), and I just wanted to offer my
experience ref salt:

I used to crave salt particularly, but also fat (Butter especially, also
Olive oil, etc.). For many years I craved fat and salt, and during those
years I tried various kinds of so-called sea salt, interspersed with periods
of Iodized table salt (Morton Brand).

Then I discovered Sole, which is a saturated aqueous solution of Celtic Sea
Salt. I began using the liquid Sole while cooking.

After several months of using Sole exclusively, I noticed that I no longer
craved salt. I have used Celtic Sole almost exclusively since then..

I discovered last year that craving for fat and salt are apparently earmarks
of Adrenal Fatigue.

I use the Coarse Light Gray Celtic Sea Salt to make Sole. I decant the Sole
into a squirt bottle which sits by my stove.
Mineral- and trace mineral-rich, I recommend this Celtic Sea salt highly.

(Note: I do not have any affiliation with the Celtic co, other than liking
their salt)

Stay well,

Linda :)
----------------------------------------------------
-------------- Original message from "Lawrence F. London, Jr."
<venaurafarm@bellsouth.net>: --------------


>
>
> https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/permaculture/2009-November/034199.html
> Larry, you wrote:
> "...Anyway to start the ball rolling what is the best route to heart and
> artery health (ignoring inherited genetic factors)?
> I think of grass fed meat on occasion [2-5 times (meals] per month), a
> high fiber diet lots of fresh raw vegetables and
> fruits, maybe muscadine grape seed and skin freeze dried extract. Start
> early in life with good dietary habits...."
> LINDARAY:
> That would all be great which you wrote, but the fastest acting things I
> can think of are Cayenne Pepper in capsules + Hawthorn Berries. The
> Hawthorn Berry can be taken any time, but make sure the Cayenne is
> surrounded by food, both in front of the capsules and behind them.
> The Hawthorn Berry feeds the Heart muscle and the Cayenne tonifies and
> clears the arteries and heals tissues.
> The above info is per Dr. John Raymond Christopher, whose works on herbs
> I have collected and studied for years.
>
> Hello Linda:
> Glad you are also interested in the pchealth list. I've been wanting to
> get a good heath & nutrition forum going for years, just never thought
> of orienting it toward the permaculture community. I guess the time is
> right for that now.
>
> Crops, foods, food preparation are favorite topics of mine, have been
> since I discovered macrobiotic foods, primarily vegetarian, in the late
> sixties thanks to a few Meher Baba fellow travellers and a macrobiotic
> genius from California who taught me how to make miso soup, whole grain
> brown rice and generally the whole conservative, disciplined approach to
> macrobiotic dieting. He came to it by way of noticing one day when
> standing up and looking down he could not see his feet (remember the
> Rolaids ad with the schmoo-shaped guy with indigestion gyrating around
> to the beat of a kettledrum). He decided he needed to go on a diet.
> The world of macrobiotics saved him.
>
> I am not familiar with the use of hawthorn berries but I will learn.
> Maybe I have some supplements with that in them.
>
> Rhodiola is an interesting medicinal herb. New Chapter offers a nice
> supplement with this as the primary ingredient. Also, for same reasons,
> ginkgo, fo-ti & gotu kola.
>
> For heart and artery health I would add the following to your list
> containing cayenne and hawthorn:
>
> probiotics: kombucha, kim chee, unpasteurized kraut, rejeuvelac, seed
> cheese, soy yoghurt, any of the many refrigerated powdered supplements
> offered by such companies as New Chapter: All Flora, Smooth Food II,
> anti-agring formula, others; their vitamins have a probiotics component
>
> garlic and onion
>
> whole grains and beans (I like the canned beans offered by supermarkets
> and Whole Foods (their house brands are very competitively priced and
> equal to all others); also white and yellow grits, steel cut and rolled
> oats, barley, rice (long, medium and short grain, jasmine, red, black,
> sweet, sticky, wild, etc.)
>
> get plenty of fiber in your diet
>
> oat bran, flax seed meal
>
> soy products: tofu, soy milk, soy yoghurt, tempeh
>
> probably all kinds of antioxidant foods: carrots, citrus, various berries
>
> probiotics should be taken at every meal
>
> proper food combining for maximum nutrition through maximum digestion
>
> always wait until you have fully digested one meal before you eat another
>
> never overeat
>
> only eat when you are hungry
>
> reduce salt intake
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
>
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Tripp - You are my new hero. Thanks for making my day.

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Subject: Re: [permaculture] PCNutrition- Ref Rhodiola, Reducing Salt
Intake,etc.

Maybe I'm a simpleton but I find that when my body craves salt and fat that
eating a little salt and fat usually does the trick...
 
Tripp



The best fertilizer is the gardener's shadow.
-Chinese proverb
 

--- On Mon, 11/2/09, LINDARAY@att.net <LINDARAY@att.net> wrote:


From: LINDARAY@att.net <LINDARAY@att.net>
Subject: [permaculture] PCNutrition- Ref Rhodiola, Reducing Salt Intake,
etc.
To: "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Monday, November 2, 2009, 7:11 PM


Hi Larry,

I have concentrated on the study of herbs for most of my life, I'm really
glad to read of your interest in them as well- From what I have already read
of your posts, it doesn't surprise me one bit; I'm also an avid (dry-pack)
food storage and chef-type person <VBG>.

Anyway, Rhodiola is an herb which is useful for recovery from Adrenal
fatigue (I found that out after I no longer needed it), and I just wanted to
offer my experience ref salt:

I used to crave salt particularly, but also fat (Butter especially, also
Olive oil, etc.). For many years I craved fat and salt, and during those
years I tried various kinds of so-called sea salt, interspersed with periods
of Iodized table salt (Morton Brand).

Then I discovered Sole, which is a saturated aqueous solution of Celtic Sea
Salt. I began using the liquid Sole while cooking.

After several months of using Sole exclusively, I noticed that I no longer
craved salt. I have used Celtic Sole almost exclusively since then..

I discovered last year that craving for fat and salt are apparently earmarks
of Adrenal Fatigue.

I use the Coarse Light Gray Celtic Sea Salt to make Sole. I decant the Sole
into a squirt bottle which sits by my stove.
Mineral- and trace mineral-rich, I recommend this Celtic Sea salt highly.

(Note: I do not have any affiliation with the Celtic co, other than liking
their salt)

Stay well,

Linda :)
----------------------------------------------------
-------------- Original message from "Lawrence F. London, Jr."
<venaurafarm@bellsouth.net>: --------------


>
>
> https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/permaculture/2009-November/034199.html
> Larry, you wrote:
> "...Anyway to start the ball rolling what is the best route to heart and
> artery health (ignoring inherited genetic factors)?
> I think of grass fed meat on occasion [2-5 times (meals] per month), a
> high fiber diet lots of fresh raw vegetables and
> fruits, maybe muscadine grape seed and skin freeze dried extract. Start
> early in life with good dietary habits...."
> LINDARAY:
> That would all be great which you wrote, but the fastest acting things I
> can think of are Cayenne Pepper in capsules + Hawthorn Berries. The
> Hawthorn Berry can be taken any time, but make sure the Cayenne is
> surrounded by food, both in front of the capsules and behind them.
> The Hawthorn Berry feeds the Heart muscle and the Cayenne tonifies and
> clears the arteries and heals tissues.
> The above info is per Dr. John Raymond Christopher, whose works on herbs
> I have collected and studied for years.
>
> Hello Linda:
> Glad you are also interested in the pchealth list. I've been wanting to
> get a good heath & nutrition forum going for years, just never thought
> of orienting it toward the permaculture community. I guess the time is
> right for that now.
>
> Crops, foods, food preparation are favorite topics of mine, have been
> since I discovered macrobiotic foods, primarily vegetarian, in the late
> sixties thanks to a few Meher Baba fellow travellers and a macrobiotic
> genius from California who taught me how to make miso soup, whole grain
> brown rice and generally the whole conservative, disciplined approach to
> macrobiotic dieting. He came to it by way of noticing one day when
> standing up and looking down he could not see his feet (remember the
> Rolaids ad with the schmoo-shaped guy with indigestion gyrating around
> to the beat of a kettledrum). He decided he needed to go on a diet.
> The world of macrobiotics saved him.
>
> I am not familiar with the use of hawthorn berries but I will learn.
> Maybe I have some supplements with that in them.
>
> Rhodiola is an interesting medicinal herb. New Chapter offers a nice
> supplement with this as the primary ingredient. Also, for same reasons,
> ginkgo, fo-ti & gotu kola.
>
> For heart and artery health I would add the following to your list
> containing cayenne and hawthorn:
>
> probiotics: kombucha, kim chee, unpasteurized kraut, rejeuvelac, seed
> cheese, soy yoghurt, any of the many refrigerated powdered supplements
> offered by such companies as New Chapter: All Flora, Smooth Food II,
> anti-agring formula, others; their vitamins have a probiotics component
>
> garlic and onion
>
> whole grains and beans (I like the canned beans offered by supermarkets
> and Whole Foods (their house brands are very competitively priced and
> equal to all others); also white and yellow grits, steel cut and rolled
> oats, barley, rice (long, medium and short grain, jasmine, red, black,
> sweet, sticky, wild, etc.)
>
> get plenty of fiber in your diet
>
> oat bran, flax seed meal
>
> soy products: tofu, soy milk, soy yoghurt, tempeh
>
> probably all kinds of antioxidant foods: carrots, citrus, various berries
>
> probiotics should be taken at every meal
>
> proper food combining for maximum nutrition through maximum digestion
>
> always wait until you have fully digested one meal before you eat another
>
> never overeat
>
> only eat when you are hungry
>
> reduce salt intake
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> permaculture mailing list
> permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
> Subscribe or unsubscribe here:
> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/permaculture
> Google command to search archives:
> site:https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/permaculture searchstring
>
>
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