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  • From: "John Schinnerer" <john@eco-living.net>
  • To: "pcplantdb" <pcplantdb@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [pcplantdb] a few things...
  • Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 13:19:04 -1000 (HST)

Aloha,

This is not a response to a synthesis.
:-)

Congrats on getting a decent browser!
Please keep the 'ol IE/Mac browser around, as you may catch some
interesting bugs with it (browser compatibility testing).
Whenever Bear tweaks the web code, give it a once-over for appearance,
styles, layout, etc. with that IE/Mac browser and see if it chokes on
anything.

Meanwhile...
I am wondering if anyone else is wondering what happened to some of the
IMO most fundamental PERMACULTURE-CENTRIC aspects of PIW.

I am thinking at the moment of 'inputs' and 'outputs', e.g. what a plant
needs and what it provides.

Besides being most basic and useful for PC design purposes, this also
provides information that can be 'mined', correlated, etc. to determine
potential relationships.

As far as what I thought we were up to with this phase one of the project,
I thought the idea was to create a PERMACULTURE-CENTRIC plant database,
and IMO that means at the very least we must be able to search for,
return, add and edit PC-centric info such as 'inputs' and 'outputs'.

Since afaik info of this nature doesn't much exist as such in our startup
(PFAF) dataset, let's not forget to include it in the DB just because it's
not in our startup data. Let's consider what else of a PC-centric nature
also doesn't exist in our startup data and include that also.

In other words, I'm concerned that with so much initial data of a certain
meta-type, we are missing and/or forgetting to think about and implement
more PC-centric aspects that are not present in PFAF data or
functionality.

There is some info on 'inputs' and 'outputs' in PFAF data. However IMO
it's not easily recognizable as such, and I assume therefore not readily
searchable as such.

For example, how would I get a concise result set of plants that provide
fodder of a particular type, and/or for a particular animal?

How would I get a concise result set of plants that thrive in acidic
tropical soil conditions (considering this as an 'input')??

And so on...

John S.

John Schinnerer - MA, Whole Systems Design
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