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  • From: "Lawrence F. London, Jr." <lfl@intrex.net>
  • To: PCPLANTDB <pcplantdb@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [pcplantdb] EIE references
  • Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 23:58:38 -0700

Bear K wrote:

>>> hello everyone,
>>>
>>> Apologies, but I've been super busy and still haven't gotten
around to
>>> doing research on Ecosystem Information Engineering for you.
However,
>>> I still plan to.
>
> Speaking of biomimicry, think of creating in software an analogue
of an
> ecosystem-level World Wide Web,
> with local wildlife Intranets interlinked via
bio-communications-protocols,
> to make up a greater Extranet linking all of them from "within"
to "without",
> crossing climatic and geographic
> boundaries at will where possible.

Check out this article:
http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/000950.html
Something with a Gnutella, a Peer to Peer resilient network (no
central server), updated data would be amazing, and powerful in
developing countries, and the like. That most likely implies a
combined client/server _application_, unless it was the distributed
servers which behaved that way. That's a lot of extra coding to
implement though, hmm.

Where every node in the network is both client and server and (see your
comment below
about the database aspects) is also a database, an intelligent auto-updating
DB (I guess
aspects of AI may be usefully employed) - Begin session & go online - click
"resume previous sessions" -
your client auto searches logs for earlier contacts and initiates attempt to
reconnect with those nodes -
if they are online then "previous conversation" on topic a, topic b, topic c,
etc. resumes and data acquisition,
filtering and storage in DB happens - with the eend result being that the DB
becomes more robust with expanded
"input" and "output" resources to share with other nodes in future sessions -
Software for this might include a fancy DB, a CMS like Plone or TikiWiki, a
chat program like ICQ, Instant Messenger
or some other - would include file transfer and email and well as chat
sessions, all retooled as intergrated components of the
clint/server software (XProg). Include wireless nodes, RTTY and
computer-controlled ham radio :-)

On the database side, Chad's description of how HG DB works sounds
really cool. If the data objects do in fact have flexibility, it
would be really cool to allow objects to have Inputs and Outputs,
and be able to find matches from the outputs of one to the inputs of
another. The taxonomy of the inputs/outputs might be a bit
difficult, and it might well be feature creep, but it's something
I've dreamt of doing for a while now. It would also imply the need
to expand beyond plant objects (to animals, perhaps inanimate
objects), unless it was to just help finding nutrient accumulators
and users. It would be amazing though. Features for version >3.0.

Whole Earth Permaculture Communicator (WEPCOM) using XProg........
a highly sensitive software tool capable of autogenerating a network matriX

Biomimicry again - emulate in software a network of living organisms where
each is "client" and "server". Include with this network another one of
inanimate objects, i.e. environmental factors: weather, climate, maybe
permaculture zones,
moisture, macro and micro nutrients, atmospheric factors, favorable and
unfavorable (acid rain) -
again client/server-inputs/outputs - session data appended/added to the DB
might include cultural
info for certain plant, NPK, soil moisture/aeration-tilth/fertility.
Site-specific GIS data could be
acquired in real time, sampling data gleaned from test sites using
instrumentation that might measure
environmental conditions, soil conditions, light exposure and webcam to
visually record activity onsite.
Maybe two nodes in a network could participate in such a proceedure for a
test period to collect, compare and
synthesize data (maybe Bucky Fuller's SYNERGY is a term that could be applied
here) for entry in each node's database
(the real core of the system, a bio-cyber neural network).

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L.F.London
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