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  • From: "Marie Lester" <marie.lester@gmail.com>
  • To: estrail1rider@yahoo.com, "Mounted search and rescue" <msar-riders@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [MSAR] MSAR-Riders Digest, Vol 66, Issue 14
  • Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 09:46:21 -0400

Are any of these programs compatible with an Apple computer?  Thus far, I have not been able to use my Garmin software with my IBook.  

On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 6:40 AM, Deb Cranford <estrail1rider@yahoo.com> wrote:
I purchased this too and it is one of the best things I have done! Love it even just for hiking in unknown areas off track!!
Deb

--- On Mon, 8/25/08, annelabs@aol.com <annelabs@aol.com> wrote:
From: annelabs@aol.com <annelabs@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [MSAR] MSAR-Riders Digest, Vol 66, Issue 14Date: Monday, August 25, 2008, 6:40 PM


Try DeLorme software.  I have purchased the whole shebang....GPS, Topo and satelite disc of the state I live in.  Works pretty well!  For those of us, (I'm ashamed to admit I'm one of them) who just has a helluva time deciphering a topo map, the satelite imiage on the GPS helps to know just where I am.  The prices are all pretty reasonable and I have had great luck with customer support.

Anne


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Today's Topics:

1. Whistles, the unheard training device... (Karen Nesbitt)
2. mapping software (Lois Guyon)
3. Re: mapping software (IRVIN LICHTENSTEIN)
4. Re: mapping software (T'mi Fi)
5. Re: mapping software (Poulsen, Clare)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 11:23:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: Karen Nesbitt <spanishequines@yahoo.com>
Subject: [MSAR] Whistles, the unheard training device...
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On the topic of whistles, and whistle training, years back we tried training
dogs with silent dog whistles.? While they may work for a dog, I am just
wondering on those SAR with search dogs if they have found these whistles
effective in training.? As MSAR teams and? SAR teams work areas nearby, has any
of the mounteds come across problems with their horses that might stem from
that?? Do any of the SAR dog units?use them?? They seem to be a more obsolete
method, but was just curious.?And, just as a loud whistle may spook a horse, has
anyone taken in account the "quiet" whistle?
?
How about those "deer" whistles on the bumpers on cars...Speeding traffic is bad
enough, but those whistles can spook a mount big time.
?
And on the topic of the kids and their fanny packs, as ALL?subjects get
fatiqued, they have a tendency to lose what they carry or wear.?? Parents do
best to equip their kids with high visibility colors.? A florescent pink or
shocking yellow? or glowing orange?is far better to let the kids have then
camo.?
?
K. Nesbitt
Iroquois County- Illinois
VMSAR?



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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:38:35 -0500
From: "Lois Guyon" <laguyon@verizon.net>
Subject: [MSAR] mapping software
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I have used Expert GPS to put waypoints and tracks on aerial photos. Are
there better software packages you are using that are reasonable in price?





Lois

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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 23:53:48 -0400
From: "IRVIN LICHTENSTEIN" <ilichten1@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [MSAR] mapping software
To: "'Mounted search and rescue'" <msar-riders@lists.ibiblio.org>
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The Emergency Response Committee of GITA (www.gita.org
<http://www.gita.org/> ) is working on this. I have seen presentations by
ESRI, whose client software (ArcView) is free and will subsidize some
purchases by non-profits through an in-house grant program, and Pictometry,
a company that takes oblique digital aerial photos and can provide the
service results either through a county that bought the service or has a
Beta web based version for about $80/month for 5 users, 1 at a time.

Our county uses both ESRI and Pictometry (there is a bridge software package
that allows you to combine them) with the data on an external drive of 600
Gig. Pictures are taken in the fall about every two years.



As to layering and marking pictures Corel used to have a package that
allowed you to use the picture as a map (base layer) and then add layers on
top, but it was not automatic input, you had to key in the waypoints. As
this package was an art production package originally I would expect that
similar photo markup software exists in the graphic arts world and is
probably cheaper and easier to run than Photoshop.



Irv Lichtenstein

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[mailto:msar-riders-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Lois Guyon
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 11:39 PM
To: msar-riders@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: [MSAR] mapping software





I have used Expert GPS to put waypoints and tracks on aerial photos. Are
there better software packages you are using that are reasonable in price?





Lois

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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 06:38:07 -0400
From: "T'mi Fi" <tfinkle@erols.com>
Subject: Re: [MSAR] mapping software
To: Mounted search and rescue <msar-riders@lists.ibiblio.org>
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Our mounted team's former parent organization "Trail Riders of Today"
has an ongoing (low cost) mapping project using standard GPS software
and google earth to produce trail maps that are layered over aerial
photos (these type of maps are good for the average trail rider, but do
not provide enough detail for most search personnel). Trail Riders of
Today lends out their GPS units to its members and provides them with
basic instructions on GPS , then when the unit is returned GPS data is
uploaded to a personal computer. Several of the aerial trail maps can
be viewed online at <http://www.trot-md.org/parks.php> There is also a
link to contact the Mapping Coordinator, who would be happy to speak
with in depth about the details of project.

For MSAR applications, our Mounted Team uses MapTech software and
uploads GPS data to record trail data on topo maps. We like MapTech
because the user can create a custom topo map that will center the
search area to the field map. Waypoints and other search information
such as the ICP, staging area. PLS, Clue #5 and/or base camps can be
added as needed. Locating trails in a search area provides both a hasty
search, plus provides the search manager with a better operational
picture of the search area.

Most search managers in our 5 State region use UTM coordinates, so make
sure that your GPS and related software are set properly. It should be
noted that some County governments in urban areas use Lat/Long
coordinates to support their GIS data systems, so a (Lat/Long to UTM)
conversion program would be a good thing to have.


Ride Safe,

T'mi
TROTSAR Mounted Team
www.trotsar.org




Lois Guyon wrote:

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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 08:45:32 -0700
From: "Poulsen, Clare" <clare.poulsen@oregonstate.edu>
Subject: Re: [MSAR] mapping software
To: "Mounted search and rescue" <msar-riders@lists.ibiblio.org>
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A program that will allow you to make maps and add your own information
is Globalmapper. I use it a lot when working on maps for work because it
finds aerial photos, topo maps, satellite images, etc real easily for
your base map. The other thing I like about it is the low cost. Link:
www.globalmapper.com



clare



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[mailto:msar-riders-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Lois Guyon
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2008 8:39 PM
To: msar-riders@lists.ibiblio.org
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I have used Expert GPS to put waypoints and tracks on aerial photos.
Are there better software packages you are using that are reasonable in
price?





Lois

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