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  • From: "Lynda" <lurine AT com-pair.net>
  • To: <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [Homestead] Climate-Gate
  • Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 23:13:26 -0800

Not quite accurate, Drew. I did grant writing and each grant has its own
specific requirements. Some were only 7 years, some were longer. None were
infinite. If they are keeping data till hell freezes over, that is their
choice, not a requirement unless a specific grant so states, and most don't.

AND, since the grants I wrote were for schools, I would question keeping all
the supporting documentation. Results are a different story. Plus, once
you have your audit, you can trash away to your heart's content in most
instances.

And, there seems to be a disconnect between what reality is with research
and what people perceive it to be. The data they trashed was simply
information they had collected. The vast bulk of that data they got from
other sources. Those sources should still have their data.

Lynda
--"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we
are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and
servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." Theordore
Roosevelt, 1918.
----- Original Message ----- From: <dsanner106 AT aol.com>

The problem is they cannot be duplicated, they are gone and were not
duplicated. We have only the work product they generated after massaging
the
original data. My wife is a university grant writer, I think they would be
so
happy to hear that they can throw away all the data gathered from those
funded studies that they have always been required to keep. There is a
warehouse full of the stuff, still kept even though it has been
transferred to
microfilm and later digital formats.
Drew
,

In a message dated 12/15/2009 12:27:45 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
lurine AT com-pair.net writes:

I don't think the average person, which the DC Whorehouse, etc. counts
on,

understands what happens to all that paper.

They collect data, they correlate data, they digest data, they spit out
data
in the form of papers for peer review and scientific journals. The data
sits around and then the data is trashed. That specific project is over.
They have the results. It is done.

No big conspiracy. Just basic, ordinary everyday housekeeping. The idea
that someone might have thought 30 years ago that not keeping a
collection
of references, that can be duplicated if needed, would cause such a stink
is
ludicrous.

Lynda

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