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  • From: Zachary Chandler <zechandl AT colby.edu>
  • To: development of an education license or license option for Creative Commons <cc-education AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [cc-education] proliferation, balkanization
  • Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 09:41:36 -0400

Quoting Ben Crowell <cceducrowell03 AT lightandmatter.com>:

> Dave wrote:
> >Overstating for effect is generally my sole territory, but you've done
> >it well here. =) Your encouragement of everyone writing their own
> >license would only significantly increase the confusion you wanted to
> >avoid in your last post. It also creates the same troubles OPL did,
> >namely the creation and evangelism of licenses by people with no formal
> >legal background.

> I would like to /discourage/ people from writing their own licenses, and I
> would also like to /discourage/ people from using a discriminatory license
> such as cc.edu.

ZC: First I would like to state my admiration for Ben's work, and I'd like to
echo George Siemens's words that "we are all on the same side of the fence"
(https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/cc-education/2003-August/000048.html).

However, where we depart is on the point of idealism vs. pragmatism. While I
admire your stance, I am inclined to think that cc.edu is more practical in
terms or garnering participation. In academia I find an enormous disparity in
what certain institutions give away for free and what others lock down with
required student login. Information on multilingual computing - data that is
exempt from copyright - that I give away for free (http://www.colby.edu/lrc/
help/index.html) others restrict (http://thelab.stanford.edu/students/
index.html). But especially when it comes to content, I find my colleagues
guarding their work. That is the nut I'd like to crack, by providing an
example
with my own some-rights-reserved content, and (hopefully) influencing
professors and administrators at my school, and colleagues at other schools
--
for which I think we need a popular banner to fly.

I would also like to refer to David's earlier post (http://lists.ibiblio.org/
pipermail/cc-education/2003-August/000053.html) in which he states:

This is the escalation issue: we prefer licensing in this order:
public domain, cc, cc.edu.

</quote>

There's nothing stopping us from using and promoting the less restrictive
licenses even though we work in education, and letting others who would
otherwise not participate utilize cc.edu.

best,
Zach

==================================
Zachary Chandler
Language Technology Consultant
Director, Language Resource Center
Colby College
Waterville, Maine 04901
http://www.colby.edu/lrc/
zechandl AT colby.edu
207.872.3898




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