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  • Subject: Re: [TypicalGirls] TypicalGirls teenage jesus reunion
  • Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:00:46 -0700 (PDT)

I agree with Weasel. I have tickets for the show but if anyone ever seemed
anti-nostalgia it would be the No Wave crew, i.e. Lydia Lunch. Its definitely
surprising.

Tim B.
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www.theworldsamess.blogspot.com

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: teenage jesus reunion (Bryan Swirsky)
2. Re: teenage jesus reunion (Dee Papadopoulos)
3. Re: teenage jesus reunion (Bryan Swirsky)
4. Re: teenage jesus reunion (weasel walter)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:11:10 -0400
From: "Bryan Swirsky" <bryan.swirsky AT gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TypicalGirls] teenage jesus reunion
To: "Typical Girls: Women in Punk/Post-Punk/Underground Music (Circa
1975-1980s)" <typicalgirls AT lists.ibiblio.org>
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dee, you will never be old!



On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Dee Papadopoulos <deepop AT earthlink.net>
wrote:
or does that just make me old?

On Apr 11, 2008, at 5:49 PM, weasel walter wrote:



you all can refer to me as weasel, btw. "walter" is the last name that the
members of my immediate family use.

i gotta say i'm scared the thing is going to suck. i don't want my fantasies
about the band destroyed by a nostalgia routine. oh well . . . too bad for
me.

i can't/won't be there probably more for how scared i am of the audience,
not necessarily the band. i generally find it nauseating when something that
wasn't popular or liked when it happened becomes cool and awesome later on.
the best thing that could come out of it is that teenage jesus revolts or
punishes the audience. that would be in line with the concept.

the idea of having to stand in the audience next to some smiling idiot
mouthing the words to "orphans" like they're at a fucking pixies concert is
just totally vomit inducing to me. sorry, but i know this is going to be the
case.

teenage jesus was great because they did it great and got out while the
getting was good. i'm not anxious to see them trot it out again because it
basically defeats the purpose of their original intent. call me a purist. i
don't care.

ww

On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:30:35 -0400 hunnypi007 AT aol.com writes:

that's funny, walter. what are you scared about?


anyway, the line-up should be LL, Mr. Sclavunos, and, according to rumors,
Thurston on bass. anyone paying close attention will realize that this is
not really a bona fide reunion in that Sclavunos will be on drums, when he
actually played bass in TJ, and Thurston was never in the band but was a fan
at the time. it would have been cooler if they could have gotten Reck from
Japan back on bass. (i met him there about 10 years ago, so hopefully he's
still alive and kicking) and brought Bradley back from the dead.
resurrecting dead people always makes for the best reunion shows.


the "other" lydia

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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:42:13 -0400
From: Dee Papadopoulos <deepop AT earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [TypicalGirls] teenage jesus reunion
To: "Typical Girls: Women in Punk/Post-Punk/Underground Music (Circa
1975-1980s)" <typicalgirls AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Message-ID: <4C2F7627-3D49-44DA-BCFC-4D88091866E1 AT earthlink.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed

aw shucks
On Apr 11, 2008, at 6:11 PM, Bryan Swirsky wrote:

dee, you will never be old!



On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Dee Papadopoulos
<deepop AT earthlink.net> wrote:
or does that just make me old?

On Apr 11, 2008, at 5:49 PM, weasel walter wrote:



you all can refer to me as weasel, btw. "walter" is the last name
that the
members of my immediate family use.

i gotta say i'm scared the thing is going to suck. i don't want my
fantasies
about the band destroyed by a nostalgia routine. oh well . . . too
bad for
me.

i can't/won't be there probably more for how scared i am of the
audience,
not necessarily the band. i generally find it nauseating when
something that
wasn't popular or liked when it happened becomes cool and awesome
later on.
the best thing that could come out of it is that teenage jesus
revolts or
punishes the audience. that would be in line with the concept.

the idea of having to stand in the audience next to some smiling
idiot
mouthing the words to "orphans" like they're at a fucking pixies
concert is
just totally vomit inducing to me. sorry, but i know this is going
to be the
case.

teenage jesus was great because they did it great and got out
while the
getting was good. i'm not anxious to see them trot it out again
because it
basically defeats the purpose of their original intent. call me a
purist. i
don't care.

ww

On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:30:35 -0400 hunnypi007 AT aol.com writes:

that's funny, walter. what are you scared about?


anyway, the line-up should be LL, Mr. Sclavunos, and, according to
rumors,
Thurston on bass. anyone paying close attention will realize that
this is
not really a bona fide reunion in that Sclavunos will be on drums,
when he
actually played bass in TJ, and Thurston was never in the band but
was a fan
at the time. it would have been cooler if they could have gotten
Reck from
Japan back on bass. (i met him there about 10 years ago, so
hopefully he's
still alive and kicking) and brought Bradley back from the dead.
resurrecting dead people always makes for the best reunion shows.


the "other" lydia

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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:52:54 -0400
From: "Bryan Swirsky" <bryan.swirsky AT gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TypicalGirls] teenage jesus reunion
To: "Typical Girls: Women in Punk/Post-Punk/Underground Music (Circa
1975-1980s)" <typicalgirls AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Message-ID:
<b4df1c8d0804111552u32e5762bpaeacb6a34a41f052 AT mail.gmail.com>
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speaking of reck, has anyone heard the friction records? amazing!

On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Dee Papadopoulos <deepop AT earthlink.net>
wrote:
aw shucks


On Apr 11, 2008, at 6:11 PM, Bryan Swirsky wrote:

dee, you will never be old!



On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Dee Papadopoulos
<deepop AT earthlink.net> wrote:
or does that just make me old?

On Apr 11, 2008, at 5:49 PM, weasel walter wrote:



you all can refer to me as weasel, btw. "walter" is the last name
that the
members of my immediate family use.

i gotta say i'm scared the thing is going to suck. i don't want my
fantasies
about the band destroyed by a nostalgia routine. oh well . . . too
bad for
me.

i can't/won't be there probably more for how scared i am of the
audience,
not necessarily the band. i generally find it nauseating when
something that
wasn't popular or liked when it happened becomes cool and awesome
later on.
the best thing that could come out of it is that teenage jesus
revolts or
punishes the audience. that would be in line with the concept.

the idea of having to stand in the audience next to some smiling
idiot
mouthing the words to "orphans" like they're at a fucking pixies
concert is
just totally vomit inducing to me. sorry, but i know this is going
to be the
case.

teenage jesus was great because they did it great and got out
while the
getting was good. i'm not anxious to see them trot it out again
because it
basically defeats the purpose of their original intent. call me a
purist. i
don't care.

ww

On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:30:35 -0400 hunnypi007 AT aol.com writes:

that's funny, walter. what are you scared about?


anyway, the line-up should be LL, Mr. Sclavunos, and, according to
rumors,
Thurston on bass. anyone paying close attention will realize that
this is
not really a bona fide reunion in that Sclavunos will be on drums,
when he
actually played bass in TJ, and Thurston was never in the band but
was a fan
at the time. it would have been cooler if they could have gotten
Reck from
Japan back on bass. (i met him there about 10 years ago, so
hopefully he's
still alive and kicking) and brought Bradley back from the dead.
resurrecting dead people always makes for the best reunion shows.


the "other" lydia

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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:50:49 -0700
From: weasel walter <weaselw AT juno.com>
Subject: Re: [TypicalGirls] teenage jesus reunion
To: typicalgirls AT lists.ibiblio.org
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does what make you old??? continuing to play in the context of bush
tetras . . . nah. you guys took breaks and came back and kept writing
new material and changing. it's totally different.

i mean, you've clearly grown and progressed as a musician too, branching
out into free improvisation and stuff like that. i've heard freedomland .
. . you really throw down! i was really pleasantly surprised when i
finally heard some of your improv stuff. so . . . the whole thing is just
to grow and do more. furthermore i think we can all incorporate our past
bodies of work into the present without being nostalgic, but this teenage
jesus thing doesn't seem right to me.

the whole thing about teenage jesus was nihilism, 10 minute sets, short
songs, etc. why come back and do a greatest hits set when the whole
thing was a big fuck you to the audience anyways???

ww

On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:56:54 -0400 Dee Papadopoulos
<deepop AT earthlink.net> writes:
or does that just make me old?
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