Typical Girls: Women in Punk/Post-Punk/Underground Music (Circa 1975-1980s)

[mike AT appelstein.com]

Whatever criticisms I had of Rip It Up had mostly to do with my own  
bias - e.g. more about ZTT than I'll ever need to know.  Whether or  
not the book makes the reader feel "stuck up" is an entirely separate  
and subjective matter having nothing to do with the author's  
intentions.  That's such a juvenile criticism - it's down there with  
"you just like it because it's on an indie label."  Is this reviewer  
in 9th grade or something?

-Mike


Quoting kelli AT goodgrrrldesign.com:

> that book has been around for years and yes, it is pretty cool.
>
> isn't it equally snobby though to slam people because they aren't lo-brow
> enough. Maybe I'm just crabby today, but I found Simon's book a really
> amazing cultural analysis, very inspiring and exciting. But well, maybe I
> am an art snob, so be it.
>
> it just really bothers me how judgemental people can be on either side of
> the fence, there are great things in both academic cultural anaylsis and
> teenagers making zines and putting on shows. so why waste energy being
> negative. It's all good and worth while and it's hard enough to take a
> stand and be "counter-cultural" so hey, lets just be happy there are
> people doing it however they see fit.
>
>
>
> > Here's a cute little dig at Simon Reynolds' book, plus a mention of a book
> > I haven't seen yet but sounds good...
> >
> > from Anne Ishii's favorite books of 2006...
> > "'Fucked Up and Photocopied' by Bryan Ray Turcotte and Christopher T.
> > Miller. Created with an attitude that matches the attitude of the subject
> > matter (hard-core/punk and the art of its flyers). The commentary made me
> > alternately proud to be into this kind of music and embarrassed that I
> > would be stuck up about it. Good counterbalance to 'Rip It Up & Start
> > Again' which only entitled you to be stuck up and inevitably forced pop
> > music connoisseurs to question its definitive-ness."
> > http://www.vertical-inc.com/blog/
> >
> > Despite all that, it's thanks to this list that I first heard about the
> > Simon Reynolds book, and the recommendation to buy the brit import because
> > it had a few more chapters.
> > - Lani
> >
> >
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