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- From: "Ricardo Izquierdo" <odracir_redwolf AT linuxmail.org>
- To: "SourceMage GNU/Linux Grimoire" <sm-grimoire AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [SM-Grimoire] prolifering *-cvs spells
- Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 02:58:11 +0800
----- Original Message -----
From: Jason Flatt <jason AT flattfamily.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 07:51:54 -0800
To: sm-grimoire AT lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [SM-Grimoire] prolifering *-cvs spells
> On Tuesday 09 December 2003 07:53 am, Ricardo Izquierdo wrote:
> >
> > I know that the devel/test version of software is very important, and
> > always is going to be there, and is the reason for the devel/test
> > grimoires, I know that and is clear to me. But what about CVS, also is a
> > "devel version" of software. Maybe another solution, using composite
> > spells, is this one: A CVS, TEST, STABLE for current spells. I think every
> > prroject has a CVS. And another Devel/Test for new spell submissions, but
> > this will involve more work than in the first way.
> >
> > I like to keep my idea clear.
> > - CVS (devel versions of current spells)
> > - Devel (new spell submissions)
> > - Test (the betas or rc versions of current spells and new submissions
> > that pass the devel scripting)
> > - Bin (stable binaries of all the collection of spells) "I thought
> > Duane's idea with binaries is for the stable version of the spell"
> >
> > The devel/test grimoires are in and never had the intention to take them
> > ok is to risky, maybe only the basic concept had changed.
> >
>
>
> You appear to be confusing the stable/devel terminology for software
> packages
> with the stable/devel terminology of our grimoires.
>
> The stable, test and devel grimoires are not collections of stable, test
> and
> devel software, respectively, but collections of stable, test and
> devel /spells/, irrespective of the software state. It may be that the
> majority of the software in the stable grimoire is also a stable release
> version, but that is coincidence alone.
>
> The stable grimoire is supposed to be stable for casting spells and running
> the system. The source is available and buildable and doesn't cause weird
> problems with other software or with the system in general. If that means
> that the software that is being cast is a "stable" version or a stable
> "devel" version, then so be it. The idea here is that the user should feel
> comfortable with doing system updates without fear of repercussions.
>
> The test grimoire is for the introduction of new spells and version updates
> of
> existing spells/packages "to the masses". It is a verification place to
> make
> sure that a change in the grimoire does not cause unwanted results (like
> boot
> failure). :^)
>
> The devel grimoire is for the introduction of spells and software that may
> or
> may not work correctly with Source Mage and may require some additional
> work
> before being introduced into the test grimoire. If a spell or a software
> package is known to be broken or incompatible, it may go into the devel
> grimoire, but it does not go into the test grimoire, and that is regardless
> of the software package's state label.
>
> The recent init system change over is a good example. No external software
> packages were modified for that upgrade. It was all internal source that
> was
> changed, and most of that were the spells themselves. That process went
> into
> the devel grimoire first for the developers to experience and work
> thourough
> and fix as much as possible. It then went into the test grimore and more
> bugs were caught and fixed, though /most/ of them had been taken care of in
> the initial introduction. By the time it got to the stable grimoire, it
> was
> just that -- stable.
>
> Just because a software package is labeled "stable" by the author does not
> necessarily mean it is stable with our system, and it will go through the
> devel and test grimoires before it is allowed in the stable grimoire.
>
Thanks Jason for clearing the concepts about grimoires. Yes I was confused.
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[SM-Grimoire] prolifering *-cvs spells,
Ricardo Izquierdo, 12/09/2003
- Re: [SM-Grimoire] prolifering *-cvs spells, Ladislav Hagara, 12/09/2003
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Re: [SM-Grimoire] prolifering *-cvs spells,
Andrew, 12/09/2003
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Re: [SM-Grimoire] prolifering *-cvs spells,
Duane Malcolm, 12/09/2003
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Re: [SM-Grimoire] prolifering *-cvs spells,
Ladislav Hagara, 12/09/2003
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Re: [SM-Grimoire] prolifering *-cvs spells,
Arwed von Merkatz, 12/09/2003
- Re: [SM-Grimoire] prolifering *-cvs spells, Jason Flatt, 12/10/2003
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Re: [SM-Grimoire] prolifering *-cvs spells,
Arwed von Merkatz, 12/09/2003
- Re: [SM-Grimoire] prolifering *-cvs spells, Hamish Greig, 12/09/2003
-
Re: [SM-Grimoire] prolifering *-cvs spells,
Ladislav Hagara, 12/09/2003
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Re: [SM-Grimoire] prolifering *-cvs spells,
Duane Malcolm, 12/09/2003
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
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Re: [SM-Grimoire] prolifering *-cvs spells,
Ricardo Izquierdo, 12/09/2003
- Re: [SM-Grimoire] prolifering *-cvs spells, Jason Flatt, 12/10/2003
- Re: [SM-Grimoire] prolifering *-cvs spells, Ricardo Izquierdo, 12/10/2003
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