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  • From: Dufflebunk <dufflebunk AT dufflebunk.homeip.net>
  • To: Hamish Greig <hgreig AT bigpond.net.au>
  • Cc: Grimoire <sm-grimoire AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [SM-Grimoire] Re: PERFORCE change 17914 for review
  • Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 03:05:15 -0000

I don't think you quite understand, hgg.

Nah, just messing with you Hamish ;)

As the self appointed thread killer, I hereby declare this thread dead.
Past dead, in fact, long dead and feasted on by flies so long that large
maggots are starting to crawl out of the ugly mess...

On Mon, 2003-09-08 at 22:12, Hamish Greig wrote:
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> On Tue, 9 Sep 2003 04:15, Jimmy Yen(顏孝杰) wrote:
> > I'm sorry but I still got something to say. I think you have missed my
> > point (or I didn't make it clear enough, anyway.) It's not the minor
> > version differences that I care about now. I actually liked your
> > proposal of simplifying the release process, and I'm glad that it has a
> > good result, but the idea of limiting access to devel (read: WIP)
> > grimoire for existing developers really bugs me.
> no, i didn't miss that point i have said it half a dozen differnet ways.
> We are short on developers, we can't maintain 3 grimoires.
> The old devel grimoire doesn't exist, what we should do now is rename test
> to
> devel and devel to alpha.
> And if not having access to devel/alpha bothers you then, take note of two
> things.
> 1) the original draft of this restructure relied on the fact that cvs would
> be
> up and running for the last month and a half. Thus users if they really
> wanted were able to access devel/alpha. It was never intended to start
> developing behind closed doors.
> 2) cvs <-> perforce two way syncing isn't done yet, until it is we can't
> use
> cvs for submissions. So why don't some of the less active and more vocal
> people volunteer to help with this ?
> So to summarise,
> I am sick of "overlooking" the crucial point that cvs was supposed to be up
> and running a month and a half ago.
> I am officially passing the buck, what "I" said could be done has been
> done.
> Test grimoire is awesome and less buggy that it has ever been before.
> Stable
> is at most only one release behind test (except for stupid gcc). We have
> worked our butts off to get to where we are now.
> FFS if you want to get access to devel/alpha then stop blaming a system
> that
> works and start actually helping with the cvs setup...
> Hamish
>
> ps
> Special thanks to Robert and Arwed for their mammoth efforts rewriting
> scripts to simpleinit format.
> Special thanks to Andrew Stitt for working so hard and providing us with an
> awesome tinderbox clone "Prometheus"
> Special thanks to Eric Sandall for all his work both in front of and behind
> the scenes.
> Special thanks to the sorcery boys and to Seth for his recent additions, I
> know how much work you guys have ahead of you.
> Lastly, thanks to anyone who has been active in the last month. And
> apologies
> to anyone who thinks they should have had "special thanks", I am sure you
> mother still loves you.
> This announcement was brought to you by the letter "p" and the number "3"
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