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  • From: "Sergey A. Lipnevich" <sergey AT optimaltec.com>
  • To: Andrew <afrayedknot AT thefrayedknot.armory.com>
  • Cc: Source Mage - Grimoire <sm-grimoire AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [SM-Grimoire] All Grimoire Gurus
  • Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 00:24:40 -0400

I agree. I think chroot is more elaborate, but much more systematic solution to the issue at hand. Using chroot, sorcery would make sure nothing gets out of the jail. Since I'm not very knowledgeable in details of chroot-ing, I hope somebody could point me to the opinion or just explain why $INSTALL_ROOT and not chroot.
Thanks!

Sergey.

Andrew wrote:

so in reference to a conversation with alley_cat and zero_the_hero this
morning, is this really a good idea? does this really accomplish what
we want? does it justify a grimoire wide change, and a 'from now on'
attitude about how to write spells? spell writing can be fickle enough
as it is, we dont want to introduce further complications by adding an
error prone feature like this as a requirement to all future spells?

My main gripe is that this is supposed to aid in cross compilation. Well
no not really, because you have to hide the real system libraries and
include files. The standard argument appeals to ./configure; to which
i respond, what about all those spells that dont use it? Dont tell me
that the authors should go and start using configure now, thats bs and
we all know it.

To me this just makes it so you can install stuff elsewhere, through an
overly annoying modification to many current and future spells. This
is going to be error prone, if you dont see it, i suggest explaining to
a newbie why this variable has to exist and how to sedit makefiles to
install in the right place. There should be a better solution than this.

Andrew








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