Discussion of Spells and Grimoire items

[Jose Bernardo Silva <josebernardo1 AT yahoo.com>]

Sergey,

Unfortunately, today I don't have much time to reply,
but will try to expand when I return in two weeks. The
j2sdk spell doesn't save much in the install logs
because it is incompatible with installwatch. If it is
enabled, j2sdk will blow in the middle of the
compile... :(

 --- "Sergey A. Lipnevich" <sergey AT optimaltec.com>
wrote: > Hi All,
> 
> First of all, a miracle of successful build of j2sdk
> spell is upon me, 
> I'm happy to thank everyone who made it possible.
> Thank you!
> Another good news is that on a [2GB RAM + 1MB] swap
> server it compiles 
> with TMPFS=on just fine.
> I also have to thank everyone involved in the java
> section creation. I 
> tried only ant so far, and had to upgrade it to
> 1.5.3 'cause they 
> flushed 1.5.2 source off the site.
> 
> Now the questions. Why does ant have a complete
> install log including 
> /opt/ant directories, and j2sdk does not?
> Consequently, images in 
> /var/cache/sorcery contain complete ant, but only
> five or so files of 
> j2sdk. I was planning to compile j2sdk on this fat
> server of mine and 
> then copy everything over to my other system(s), but
> it's not trivial 
> anymore :-!. Is this because of the way j2sdk's
> build process is organized?
> 
> Another thing, I believe that ant's documentation is
> installed 
> redundantly into /usr and /opt. Shouldn't we only
> keep one instance 
> (it's a lot of files, mind you).
> 
> Finally, I've just looked at j2sdk/BUILD, and it has
> the following 
> command chain at the end: a && b && c || d. This is
> wrong, don't do 
> that. Entire premise of having && after every
> command is that it'd fail, 
> sorcery will take over right away. If one uses || in
> this chain, one 
> gets control instead, in the "d" command above. Use
> "if" in all such 
> cases, please!
> 
> Anyway, many thanks!
> 
> Sergey.
> 
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From: Casey Harkins <charkins AT upl.cs.wisc.edu>
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However, we do know where all of the files are installed. Perhaps we can
fudge the install log ourselves in the POST_INSTALL?

-casey


On Fri, 11 Apr 2003, Jose Bernardo Silva wrote:

> Sergey,
>
> Unfortunately, today I don't have much time to reply,
> but will try to expand when I return in two weeks. The
> j2sdk spell doesn't save much in the install logs
> because it is incompatible with installwatch. If it is
> enabled, j2sdk will blow in the middle of the
> compile... :(
>
>  --- "Sergey A. Lipnevich" <sergey AT optimaltec.com>
> wrote: > Hi All,
> >
> > First of all, a miracle of successful build of j2sdk
> > spell is upon me,
> > I'm happy to thank everyone who made it possible.
> > Thank you!
> > Another good news is that on a [2GB RAM + 1MB] swap
> > server it compiles
> > with TMPFS=on just fine.
> > I also have to thank everyone involved in the java
> > section creation. I
> > tried only ant so far, and had to upgrade it to
> > 1.5.3 'cause they
> > flushed 1.5.2 source off the site.
> >
> > Now the questions. Why does ant have a complete
> > install log including
> > /opt/ant directories, and j2sdk does not?
> > Consequently, images in
> > /var/cache/sorcery contain complete ant, but only
> > five or so files of
> > j2sdk. I was planning to compile j2sdk on this fat
> > server of mine and
> > then copy everything over to my other system(s), but
> > it's not trivial
> > anymore :-!. Is this because of the way j2sdk's
> > build process is organized?
> >
> > Another thing, I believe that ant's documentation is
> > installed
> > redundantly into /usr and /opt. Shouldn't we only
> > keep one instance
> > (it's a lot of files, mind you).
> >
> > Finally, I've just looked at j2sdk/BUILD, and it has
> > the following
> > command chain at the end: a && b && c || d. This is
> > wrong, don't do
> > that. Entire premise of having && after every
> > command is that it'd fail,
> > sorcery will take over right away. If one uses || in
> > this chain, one
> > gets control instead, in the "d" command above. Use
> > "if" in all such
> > cases, please!
> >
> > Anyway, many thanks!
> >
> > Sergey.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > SM-Grimoire mailing list
> > SM-Grimoire AT lists.ibiblio.org
> >
> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/sm-grimoire
>
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> josebernardo1 AT yahoo.com              | http://www.sourcemage.org
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