Discussion of Spells and Grimoire items

[Lyon Lemmens <redlemon AT knoware.nl>]

On Wednesday 02 April 2003 20:10, Eric Sandall wrote:
> All,
>
> Once I can confirm we have the patches for apache and apache-mod_ssl (the
> only spells which require patches to compile), I will do the following:
>
> 1.  Modify OpenOffice's SOURCE20 to use db-4.1
> 2.  Modify perl's BUILD to use -Ui_db
> 3.  Update db to 4.1.25
>
> What spell should depend on DB_File?  DB_File depends on perl, so perl
> cannot depend on DB_File, DB_File depends on db as well, so db cannot
> depend on DB_File.  Is DB_File necessary?

DB_file is not a requirement as such, but some people (like me) use it quite 
a lot. So removing it from the grimoire is not an option (IMO). But I think 
your idea of disabling it in the perl spell itself is a sane one. I'll do 
that. DB_file can then depend on perl and db. I'll add a trigger so it 
rebuilds after db updates.

>
> 4.  Once the above is figured out, I will apply the needed changes
> 5.  Commit these changes
>
> Sound good?
>
> -One of Four
> a.k.a. sandalle

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Sergey has the right of it. DB_File is maintained as a separate module on 
CPAN and changes more frequently than perl itself. Hence it supports the 
new db.

On the other hand, I don't like Sergey's idea of hacking the perl install 
that way. 

Disabling DB_File during the perl install and treating it as a separate 
spell is more elegant IMO.


On Thursday 03 April 2003 07:20, Sergey A. Lipnevich wrote:
> DB_File is a part of Perl distribution (but not Perl itself). It was
> always like this: DB_File inside Perl and another DB_File as a separate
> spell. I don't know why, but my guess is that Perl's distribution
> changes infrequently, and DB_File goes through several iterations while
> Perl's tarball is always the same.
>
> Eric Sandall wrote:
> >Sergey A. Lipnevich said:
> >>It's a part of Perl, and the way I explained it, Perl's makefile simply
> >>picks up the new DB_File. No changes to BUILD, only in PRE_BUILD to
> >>unpack the new DB_File, and in DETAILS to mention DB_File as SOURCE2.
> >
> >If it's a part of perl, why do we have a DB_File spell?  And if we
> > unpack the DB_File and install it as part of perl, that also will be
> > misleading in that the user will now have DB_File installed, but
> > sorcery will not know that.
> >
> >-One of Four
> >a.k.a. sandalle
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Lyon Lemmens, Grimoire Guru for perl-cpan:

New versions:
Compress-Zlib           1.20
Crypt-Random            1.13
DBD-Sybase              1.00
Mail-POP3Client         2.14
Parse-RecDescent        1.93
Term-ReadLine-Gnu       1.14
Text-Autoformat         1.08
Text-Balanced           1.91
Time-HiRes              1.45
Video-DVDRip            0.50.10
dailystrips             1.0.27

Changed SOURCE_URLs:
dailystrips:    SOURCEFORGE_URL

Removed spells:
none

New spells:
none

Deleted file:
none

Notes:
Changed perl build so that the DB_File *module* doesn't get build with perl.
I've changed "DB_File" *spell* so that it has a trigger on the "db" spell.
This all so that the new db 4.x can be supported.

Eric, Can you pull the following spells to test, because a "gaze spider" 
reports them broken: Archive-Tar, CPAN, Bundle-CPAN, Mail-POP3Client, 
Template-Toolkit

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Started checking on my more powerful machine... Mozilla compiled OK, but 
that was late last night so I didn't check Galeon. Thanks!

Robin Cook wrote:

> Just a quick note.  The mozilla spell was updated to 1.4a to perforce 
> and this might break galeon2.
>