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  • From: Ismael Luceno <ismael.luceno AT gmail.com>
  • To: sm-discuss AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [SM-Discuss] Time to merge devel-xorg-modular
  • Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2015 01:09:44 -0300

On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 19:03:04 +0100
Thomas Orgis <thomas-forum AT orgis.org> wrote:
> Am Sat, 28 Feb 2015 20:32:27 +0300
> schrieb Vlad Glagolev <stealth AT tiberian.ru>:
>
> > Well, I have more than one hundred smgl servers, and no, I do not
> > want to break everything because of
> > yet-another-forced-and-not-compatible upgrade of A through Z.
>
> Hm, so what you're really aiming at is to have some mental safety that
> `scribe update` only pulls in security patches and not actually
> changes anything that needs babysitting? A long term support grimoire?
>
> My point was that other extreme: That between grimoire releases, so
> many changes accumulate, that it's a bumpy path to upgrade.

Something in between, like two or three stable releases a year each
followed by testing releases each month would be ideal for me.

> I don't want to forgo a conclusion of the discussion. When we settle
> on an approach that mandates stuff in test grimoire (master branch)
> not being knowingly broken while not shying away from upgrades, and
> then branch off that in some given interval stable grimpoires that
> are kept stable for some extended time period, I'd be fine with that.

+1.

> Heck, you can go down to one release per year, even, in that case.
> We'd also have to think about supporting the "oldstable" with
> security fixes for some period after the new one arrived. Because …
> server admins don't want to do upgrades right away;-) On my
> development machine(s), I use the grimoire right from git anyway.
>
> It just seems like this is a change from what SMGL used to aim for, so
> it should be communicated and agreed upon as such.

+1.




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