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  • From: Eric Sandall <eric AT sandall.us>
  • To: SM Discuss <sm-discuss AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [SM-Discuss] Modular X.org
  • Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 16:21:51 -0800 (PST)

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On Thu, 2 Mar 2006, Arwed von Merkatz wrote:
On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 10:48:14AM -0800, Eric Sandall wrote:
How close is the xorg-modular grimoire to being integrated into devel
(and then hopefully test ;))?

The spells themselves seem to be coming along nicely. Before it can be
integrated there's some work left for the really big list of CONFLICTS
this needs.
What we really should decide soon is whether to continue supporting
monolithic X versions or not. The monolithic xorg spell will definitely
go once the modulars are ready, but there's the xfree* and xdirectfb
ones.
Pro:
- choice, users can choose to use xfree instead of xorg
Con:
- will require several providers for the various X libraries that aren't
strictly requiered by xorg-server as those will eventually become
optional_depends for various spells. Some of them don't exist in
xfree, other do exist and thus have to be provided by the modular
spell and the monolithic ones.

Except for choice I see no reason to continue supporting xfree, and the
choice part is mostly superfluous too, there's no technical reason to
choose xfree over xorg, and lots of reasons to choose xorg. I don't
think that choice is important enough to warrant the work of maintaining
the monolithic builds (which are a real pain to work with in spells), so
in my opinion we should drop xfree*.
xdirectfb is essentially a hardware abstraction dropin for xfree and
xorg, I just had a quick glance and it might be possible to integrate
that as an option in the xorg-server spell instead of building it inside
a monolithic tree.

If we can have all the functionality that the xfree86* packages
deliver (e.g. xfree86-libs) then I'd be okay with removing them
(thanks to Flavien for the summary of xfree86* users ;)).

We'd of course want to provide a safe update path from xfree86* ->
xorg/xorg-modular.

One issue with xorg-modular is some of the configuration changes (such
as Flavien found with "dvorak" layout and mouse auto-detection).

- -sandalle

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Eric Sandall | Source Mage GNU/Linux Developer
eric AT sandall.us | http://www.sourcemage.org/
http://eric.sandall.us/ | SysAdmin @ Inst. Shock Physics @ WSU
http://counter.li.org/ #196285 | http://www.shock.wsu.edu/
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