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[Eric Sandall <eric AT sandall.us>]

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On Thu, 2 Mar 2006, Arwed von Merkatz wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 10:48:14AM -0800, Eric Sandall wrote:
> > How close is the xorg-modular grimoire to being integrated into devel
> > (and then hopefully test ;))?
>
> The spells themselves seem to be coming along nicely. Before it can be
> integrated there's some work left for the really big list of CONFLICTS
> this needs.
> What we really should decide soon is whether to continue supporting
> monolithic X versions or not. The monolithic xorg spell will definitely
> go once the modulars are ready, but there's the xfree* and xdirectfb
> ones.
> Pro:
> - choice, users can choose to use xfree instead of xorg
> Con:
> - will require several providers for the various X libraries that aren't
>  strictly requiered by xorg-server as those will eventually become
>  optional_depends for various spells. Some of them don't exist in
>  xfree, other do exist and thus have to be provided by the modular
>  spell and the monolithic ones.
>
> Except for choice I see no reason to continue supporting xfree, and the
> choice part is mostly superfluous too, there's no technical reason to
> choose xfree over xorg, and lots of reasons to choose xorg. I don't
> think that choice is important enough to warrant the work of maintaining
> the monolithic builds (which are a real pain to work with in spells), so
> in my opinion we should drop xfree*.
> xdirectfb is essentially a hardware abstraction dropin for xfree and
> xorg, I just had a quick glance and it might be possible to integrate
> that as an option in the xorg-server spell instead of building it inside
> a monolithic tree.

If we can have all the functionality that the xfree86* packages
deliver (e.g. xfree86-libs) then I'd be okay with removing them
(thanks to Flavien for the summary of xfree86* users ;)).

We'd of course want to provide a safe update path from xfree86* ->
xorg/xorg-modular.

One issue with xorg-modular is some of the configuration changes (such
as Flavien found with "dvorak" layout and mouse auto-detection).

- -sandalle

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http://eric.sandall.us/          |  SysAdmin @ Inst. Shock Physics @ WSU
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