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[Eric Sandall <eric AT sandall.us>]

Quoting Hamish Greig <hgreig AT bigpond.net.au>:
> the following are two lists of spells I have been working with for the next 
> ISO. 
> "must have "  are the minimum for a working compile environment
> "optional" are spells useful for remote admin, fileserving, network fs 
> mounting, some daemons, mail client and some other useful utilities.
> 
> I looked at adding xfree86-4.3 but with it's depends it is 60 MB, even with 
> all the html docs, fonts and man pages stripped out it is still ~25 MB. So I
> 
> don't think it should be added.
> links-twibright or lynx and irssi should probably also go into the optional 
> list too.
> 
> Please take a look, let me know how you feel about the lists, the ones 
> marked
> 
> (arguable), and if any other useful utilities etc should be added.
> 
> must have spells:
> ++++++++++++
> perl:5.8.3 <- (arguable)

Does anything needed on the ISO require perl?

$ gaze depends perl 1
SDL-sdlpl:perl:on:required::
XML-Parser-Expat:perl:on:required::
autoconf:perl:on:required::
automake:perl:on:required::
basesystem:perl:on:required::
doxygen:perl:on:required::
firefox:perl:on:required::
frozen-bubble:perl:on:required::
glib2:perl:on:required::
glibc:perl:on:required::
gtk-doc:perl:on:required::
intltool:perl:on:required::
kdevelop:perl:on:optional:--enable-perl:--disable-perl
krb5:perl:on:required::
linux:perl:on:required::
lyx:perl:on:required::
mysql:perl:on:required::
openjade:perl:on:required::
openssl:perl:on:required::
psutils:perl:on:required::
sloccount:perl:on:required::
vim:perl:on:optional:--enable-perlinterp:
xchat:perl:on:optional::--disable-perl
xfree86-devel:perl:on:required::
xfree86:perl:on:required::

the kernel (linux) uses perl for some of it's parsing in makefiles. not sure
what glibc uses it for, but those are the only two "required" packages I see
that depend on perl (besides basesystem, but that's just a meta-spell).

> gawk:3.1.3
> readline:4.3
> ncurses:5.4
> bash:2.05b
> binutils:2.14.90.0.8
> bzip2:1.0.2
> coreutils:5.2.0
> patch:2.5.4
> cpio:2.5
> dialog:0.9b-20031207
> diffutils:2.8.1
> simpleinit-msb:1.2
> init.d:2.1.3
> zlib:1.2.1 
> file:4.07
> findutils:4.1.20
> texinfo:4.6
> gettext:0.14.1
> gcc:3.3.3
> glibc-kernel-headers:2.4.24
> glibc:2.3.2
> e2fsprogs:1.35 <- (arguable)

Isn't thsi one of those optionals that only get installed if they're using
ext2/3?

> grep:2.5.1
> gzip:1.2.4b
> tar:1.13.25
> installwatch:0.6.3
> less:382
> make:3.80
> module-init-tools:3.0 <- (arguable)

Isn't this needed to load/unload modules?

> netconf:1.3 <- (arguable)

Would this be optional if the chose to start their network right then (say for
an nfs install)?

> net-tools:1.60
> procps:3.2.0
> rpmunpack:0
> sed:4.0.9
> shadow:4.0.4.1
> unzip:5.50
> util-linux:2.12
> wget:1.9.1
> console-data:1999.08.29
> console-tools:0.2.3
> netkit-base:0.17
> netkit-ping:0.17 <- (arguable)

Same as netconf, I'd say.

> 
> optional spells:
> +++++++++++
> mutt:1.4.2i
> devfsd:v1.3.25
> hotplug:2004_03_11
> nfs-utils:1.0.6
> openssh:3.8p1
> openssl:0.9.7d
> pciutils:2.1.11
> portmap:4
> procinfo:18
> tcp_wrappers:7.6
> which:2.16
> xinetd:2.3.13
> hdparm:5.5
> groff:1.19
> man:1.5m2
> man-pages:1.66

I think we may want the man pages installed, in case someone needs to look up
some syntax right away. And by "optional" you mean that they may or may not be
included on the ISO root, or that the user has an option to install them onto
the system from the ISO?

-sandalle

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