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  • From: "Lawrence F. London, Jr." <lfl AT intrex.net>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture AT lists.ibiblio.org>, piw AT lists.ibiblio.org
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  • Subject: [piw] Re: [permaculture] Permaculture Web Developers Guild?
  • Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2005 00:55:53 -0800

Bart Anderson wrote:
Keith Johnston wrote:
We need a guild or network or listserv for Permaculture Web Developers,
I think. What do you think?


Great idea. Sign me up!

Suggestions:
1.Could a low-maintenance bulletin board (forum, discussion group) be used
instead of a listserv (email list)? It's much easier to have
conversations on
a bulletin board. A Yahoo group?

Not Yahoo, its too much trouble and is crippled. I would be interested in this
also but I prefer a standard mailing list with easy-to-access archives,
i.e. Mailman, the software that runs this list on ibiblio. If you do not want
to
add to your load of incoming email you can set your user options to "nomail"
and
read list traffic in the web-accessable archives and still post and reply to
messages.
Webforums are very slow and sometimes are not secure - and are crippled,
feature-wise also.

Look no further.

I have already created a mailing list exclusively for people wanting to
develop their own Permaculture websites, or wikis or blogs or lists or
webforums,
etc etc - or prepare information resources for web publishing, DVD, videos,
sound files,
text, book publishing, whatever medium they choose to use to get the word out.
I plan to do many of these things of this myself for my own website and to
create portable
resources to sell or give away (CD's and DVD's).

The list is named: permacultureinfo
http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/permacultureinfo
"The purpose of this forum is to help individuals, groups and organizations
promote and develop information resources on permaculture. This includes
books, magazines, journals, bulletins and pamphlets, hardcopy and electronic,
as well as web development, mailing lists, databases, weblogs, wikis
and content management systems. "

I'd be willing to have a co-owner of this forum.


It has a companion mailing list called: pc-knowledgebase
http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/pc-knowledgebase
"Permaculture Knowledgebase Mailing List
A forum for the exchange and archiving of information about permaculture,
scientific, indigenous and anecdotal. "

This forum can be used to create a large and ddiverse body of open source
information related
to permaculture or any of the subjects that logically falled under this
umbrella discipline.
This list can be freely used to store information that anyone may use to
develop their own websites.
For example I might contribute lots of megabytes of permaculture bibliography
and some on
natural farming and gardening, or the distilled essence of my best advice on
soil conditioning and
raised bed preparation an maintenance, of my gardening hand tool sourcelist.
Some might upload
guild information. All this freely shared among subscribers.


I had forgotten but now realize that I also have a list called:
openpermaculture
http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/openpermaculture

The original mission statement is:
"The openpermaculture list is the forum for The Open Permaculture Project,
a global extranet of practitioners participating in developing a permaculture
knowledgebase
See PermaSphere at market-farming.com for more information and links."

Maybe a good use for this list can be found. I'd be willing to have a
co-owner for this forum.

LL

>
> 2. Perhaps there is a current site that we could use?
> For example: http://www.openpermaculture.com/
>
> 3. Would it make sense to extend such a guild beyond Permaculture to other
> groups
> interested in sustainable living? Or perhaps other sustainability
> groups already
> have a discussion group somewhere on web development.
>
> - Bart
--
L.F.London
lfl AT intrex.net
http://market-farming.com
Market Farming Forum
http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/marketfarming



  • [piw] Re: [permaculture] Permaculture Web Developers Guild?, Lawrence F. London, Jr., 02/09/2005

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