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What constitutes a homesteder?

I have a small front garden which supplies most of my salad stuff,squash, beans, peas, garlic,spinach, mizuma, strawberries and blueberries and a large backgarden thats mostly wild but does have blackberries, raspberries, black and redcurrants, gooseberries, elderberries, hazel hedging and various herbs. 

enough to feed me anyway.

Do I count as an urban homesteader?

Saleema

> Message date : Jan 24 2005, 05:42 PM
> From : "joel gagnon"
> To : piw AT lists.ibiblio.org
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> Subject : [piw] homesteaders
>

> I have been homesteading for 27 years. There may be others on the list who would be willing to self-identify. Why do you ask?

> Joel Gagnon, West Danby, NY
>
>

From: "Lawrence F. London, Jr."
> Reply-To: Permaculture Information Web
> To: piw AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: [piw] [Fwd: Re: [pcplantdb] Re: GIS]
> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:48:40 -0800
>
>
> Are there any homesteading gardeners in this list? Urban permaculture homesteaders OK.
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [pcplantdb] Re: GIS
> Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:38:52 -0800
> From: Lawrence F. London, Jr.
> Reply-To: Permaculture Plant Database
>
> Bear K wrote:
> >>>I'd also like to say it seemed like a very good event. Met and
> >>>talked with quite a few interesting people. One person (Mark)
> >>>works with a guy (@ onevillage.biz) who has done ecological GIS
> >>>work in Kenya, etc and knows those systems very well. So good
> >>>overlap with what Lawrence has been wanting.
> >>
> >>
> >>A GIS expert helping us would be a very valuable resource, usually
> >>hard to find
> >>for small projects and expensive (because of the high demand for
> >>GIS services,
> >>prices are very high). I wonder if there is a family of opensource
> >>GIS software
> >>products being developed?
> >
> >I've looked into it to some degree, and it seems there is...
> >I can't pull all the links together right now...
>
> Thanks.
>
> >This might get you started:
> >http://opensourcegis.org/
> >
> >Or the Virtual Terrian Project:
> >http://www.vterrain.org/
>
> Just looked at this URL. To quote them:
>
> "The goal of VTP is to foster the creation of tools for easily constructing any part of the real world in interactive, 3D digital form."
> and:
> "This goal will require a synergetic convergence of the fields of CAD, GIS, visual simulation, surveying and remote sensing. VTP gathers
> information and tracks progress in areas such as procedural scene construction, feature extraction, and rendering algorithms."
>
> If VTP can "easily constructing any part of the real world in interactive, 3D digital form" with GIS coordinates for contour mapping, etc.
> and present this data in 3D format, could it or some software derived from it take "3 D" data, i.e. fauna/flora-habitat-environment
> information and present it in some three dimensional way similar to the way Touchgraph-like tools do? Say, if you (the user) could change
> something represented in one of the three dimensions represented in the image on your screen (like, for example change Johnson grass
> to pennyroyal) the data/image in the other two dimensions would change correspondingly (and maybe sprout branches of data to indicate
> other possibilities for displaying relationships 3 dimensionally - maybe a data fractal would emerge to entrance the user.
>
> Related to my notion of using PIW DB and GIS for market farmers, permaculturists and homesteaders is my notion of exploring plant culture
> methods on farmland (gardening) where data on existing land contours, land features, microclimates, drainage, exposure, land features and
> slopes, existing plantings, edge zones and native vegetation are cataloged and processed for graphical presentation of possibilities for
> planting locations and cultural methods (raised beds, row, orchard). I thought that with knowledge of this sort one could try out
> exotic planting schemes such as permanent notill raised beds in mandala and/or keyhole gardens laid out in a fractal pattern.
>
> I have an array of exotic tractor tillage equipment that I can use to create the beginnings of gardening systems of this sort. I am about 2
> acres of intensively prepared, very weedy soil into it so far.
>
> LL
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> lfl AT intrex.net
> http://market-farming.com
> http://www.ibiblio.org/ecolandtech
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