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[piw] homesteaders

From: Chad Knepp <pyg AT galatea.org>
To: Permaculture Information Web <piw AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: [piw] homesteaders
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:06:11 -0600

Hi Joel,

I can't really read this. I think it might be interesting so could
you try and send it in plain text, not html?

Thanks,
Chad

joel gagnon writes:
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> I have been homesteading for 27 years. There may be others on
> the list who would be willing to self-identify. Why do you ask?
> Joel Gagnon, West Danby, NY </DIV>From: "Lawrence
> F. London, Jr." <lfl AT intrex.net> Reply-To: Permaculture
> Information Web <piw AT lists.ibiblio.org> To:
> piw AT lists.ibiblio.org Subject: [piw] [Fwd: Re: [pcplantdb] Re:
> GIS] Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:48:40 -0800 Are
> there any homesteading gardeners in this list? Urban permaculture
> homesteaders OK. -------- Original Message --------
>  Subject: Re: [pcplantdb] Re: GIS Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005
> 01:38:52 -0800 From: Lawrence F. London,
> Jr. <lfl AT intrex.net> Reply-To: Permaculture Plant
> Database <pcplantdb AT lists.ibiblio.org> Bear K wrote:
>  >>>I'd also like to say it seemed like a very good
> event. Met and >>>talked with quite a few interesting
> people. One person (Mark) >>>works with a guy (@
> onevillage.biz) who has done ecological GIS >>>work in
> Kenya, etc and knows those systems very well. So good
>  >>>overlap with what Lawrence has been
> wanting. >> >> >>A GIS expert helping
> us would be a very valuable resource, usually >>hard to
> find >>for small projects and expensive (because of the
> high demand for >>GIS services, >>prices are
> very high). I wonder if there is a family of opensource
>  >>GIS software >>products being developed?
>  > >I've looked into it to some degree, and it seems
> there is... >I can't pull all the links together right
> now... Thanks. >This might get you started:
>  >http://opensourcegis.org/ > >Or the Virtual
> Terrian Project: >http://www.vterrain.org/ Just
> looked at this URL. To quote them: "The goal of VTP is to
> foster the creation of tools for easily constructing any part of
> the real world in interactive, 3D digital form." and: "This
> goal will require a synergetic convergence of the fields of CAD,
> GIS, visual simulation, surveying and remote sensing. VTP gathers
>  information and tracks progress in areas such as procedural
> scene construction, feature extraction, and rendering algorithms."
>  If VTP can "easily constructing any part of the real world
> in interactive, 3D digital form" with GIS coordinates for contour
> mapping, etc. and present this data in 3D format, could it or
> some software derived from it take "3 D" data,
> i.e. fauna/flora-habitat-environment information and present it
> in some three dimensional way similar to the way Touchgraph-like
> tools do? Say, if you (the user) could change something
> represented in one of the three dimensions represented in the image
> on your screen (like, for example change Johnson grass to
> pennyroyal) the data/image in the other two dimensions would change
> correspondingly (and maybe sprout branches of data to indicate
>  other possibilities for displaying relationships 3
> dimensionally - maybe a data fractal would emerge to entrance the
> user. Related to my notion of using PIW DB and GIS for
> market farmers, permaculturists and homesteaders is my notion of
> exploring plant culture methods on farmland (gardening) where
> data on existing land contours, land features, microclimates,
> drainage, exposure, land features and slopes, existing
> plantings, edge zones and native vegetation are cataloged and
> processed for graphical presentation of possibilities for
>  planting locations and cultural methods (raised beds, row,
> orchard). I thought that with knowledge of this sort one could try
> out exotic planting schemes such as permanent notill raised
> beds in mandala and/or keyhole gardens laid out in a fractal
> pattern. I have an array of exotic tractor tillage
> equipment that I can use to create the beginnings of gardening
> systems of this sort. I am about 2 acres of intensively
> prepared, very weedy soil into it so far. LL --
>  L.F.London lfl AT intrex.net http://market-farming.com
>  http://www.ibiblio.org/ecolandtech
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Chad Knepp
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[piw] [Fwd: Re: [pcplantdb] Re: GIS], Lawrence F. London, Jr., 01/24/2005
- [piw] homesteaders, joel gagnon, 01/24/2005
  - [piw] homesteaders, Chad Knepp, 01/24/2005
  - Re: [piw] homesteaders, Lawrence F. London, Jr., 01/24/2005