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[Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com>]

I found this in an old Facebook backup. [not sure I know what I am talking about here but whatever....]

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Allen Barenholtz 

The bolded names are totally familiar to me, I may say! Lawrence Edwards was a foremost pioneer of the PG in my time in Scotland, and I learned masses from him and his colleague, Olive Whicher. These two, in turn, were students and colleagues of George Adams, who in turn was a contemporary of Dr. Steiner. Dr. Steiner said that Projective Geometry (PG) was for him THE very element in his studies of the material world that enabled him to affirm that his spiritual experiences were valid. It provides a bridge between the material and the supersensible, that is common to both. The principles of counter-space, mentioned in this excerpt, are what I mean. Counter-space, or negative-space, or etheric space, or sun-space . . . these are synonymous. I could say much much more --- I spent 3 solid years at the feet of these masters. When one speaks of central or core aspects of reality, one includes these . . . tho' the language may vary . . .

Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 11:30pm EST

Lawrence London

I am impressed with what you have said, Allen. You, too, are a master, rather have by now achieved that status, I would say...I feel some strength in what you have said. i, of course, need to study projective geometry to know what it is about, to bring it into perspective, in this context. Wordy...Related somehow: Hugh Lovel has named his company Quantum Agriculture. I will quote again what Bruce Lipton said: "Quantum physics stresses that the invisible energy realm, collectively referred to as the field, is the primary governing force of the material realm. It is more than interesting that the term field is defined as “invisible moving forces that influence the physical realm,” for the same definition is used to describe spirit. The new physics provides a modern version of ancient spirituality. In a Universe made out of energy, everything is entangled, everything is one." Bruce Lipton

Wednesday, January 25, 2012 at 12:26am EST

Allen Barenholtz

What Bruce writes is the "with other words" I mentioned.

Thursday, January 26, 2012 at 10:39am EST

Allen Barenholtz

"the language may vary" is what I meant. The natural scientific community is prevented from speaking in terms of the spiritual values --- by contemporary standards. Yet, anyone in science who has risen above their colleagues, knows the hallmarks of spirit, which are abundant, yet beyond the purview of natural science per se. Spiritual Science provides the rest of the 'missing' language, I find. It details both sides of, literally, the matter --- the material AND the non- material alike.

Thursday, January 26, 2012 at 10:46am EST

Lawrence London

Anyone who can push forward connection pure science, the scientific methods, standard methods of scientific inquiry with the supranatural or preternatural is worth supporting. Prescient beings lead the way. Steiner was probably one as was Alan Chadwick and his contemporaries. Now, why did Steiner think so highly of PG; the mind reels...

Thursday, January 26, 2012 at 6:52pm EST

Allen Barenholtz

The mind needn't quite reel . . . ya gotta hold on firmly from time to time, that is very true! And I often find it helpful to loosen my failing grip, if the "aha" moment doesn't arrive to relieve me . . . there's another day for that. Lawrence, do you recall some of the 'simple' PG exercises I wrote in these notes in FB from a year ago?

Friday, January 27, 2012 at 8:39am EST

Lawrence London

Allen: I was thinking of them today. Could you repost them so I will have a copy in my email notification on my computer. I remember descriptions of PG with examples. Please repost. Thanks. Before, I did not know of the Steiner connection. Now that I do PG becomes even more interesting. Funny how I seem to be able to put myself in Steiner's shoes (somewhat), like-minded, bird of feather, element in the noosphere (Chardin). LL

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Lawrence F. London, Jr.
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