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  • From: Steve Hart <stevenlawrencehart@gmail.com>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] A GLOBAL CHALLENGE
  • Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 06:18:44 +1200

Hi LL..I do respect your abuse and insults and perhaps lines of questioning
and ridicule. However I interpret slightly differently and look at this
project as simply another design exercise just of different magnitude to
many that we know of. Simon's experiences through life have not been too
dissimilar to many of us I'm sure. All with similar threads just of
different colour and fabric.

Rather than discredit such positive energy I am willing to give it my
positive input to see how far we can take it and see if we can achieve
something out the end. I reiterate, it is positive honest energy not like
some other energies both you and I know of which are negative and dishonest.

If we take the essence of what Simon is alluding to here and extrapolate it
or brainstorm the possible scenarios and consider other projects that could
become integrative we may just have something quite phenomenal emerging on
a global scale rather than sitting in our back yard doing the knitting and
contemplating our navel. For, we are in a time, historically, which does
seriously need a global revolution before we need to be running workshops
or Advanced Design Courses on How To Bend Over And Kiss Our Arses Goodbye

I will be giving it my positive attention and I challenge all others to
consider likewise

Kia ora Ehoa

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Environments, through Urban Design, Architecture, Landscape Architecture
and Systems Ecology via Ecological Agriculture..


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On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 at 11:57, Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 4:57 PM Steve Hart <stevenlawrencehart@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > The big picture network.. a great design exercise that will revolutionise
> > everything...perhaps even rebuild communities how we have envisioned them
> > through our rhetoric
> >
> >
> >
> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/funding-2000000-hectares-permaculture-agroforestry-simon-fjell-/
> >
>
> Not if we all become paper pushers.
>
> "Money from the sale of my farm went to setting up ..............."
> That is where the permaculture movement went astray. He can't be bothered
> to keep his own piece of permaculture farmland,
> work it and live on it, maybe make a living from it. He can't talk to those
> of us who went to great lengths to acquire land, develop it as a
> permaculture site, live on it
> and keep it for our lifetimes.
> "I left in the early eighties with next to no money"
> Wow. Handed a golden opportunity and lets it go. Surely Bill Mollison could
> have set up his own publishing company and a consultancy without his help.
> "My life’s work has seen me go from rags to riches and back again as I
> always push the envelope."
> I am completely underwhelmed.
> "Now I am co-founder of a company listing on the Philippine stock exchange
> this year. The market capitalisation is currently over a billion dollars
> and will be over five billion when we list on NASDAQ early next year. We
> are funding our first 2,000,000 hectares of sustainable farms having
> secured the interest of large and small investors."
> Yowzaa. What has this to do with hands-on PC? Nothing but paper pushing and
> blowing smoke. BS.
> "Change the world. Make some money."
> Certainly the distilled essence of permaculture. Sounds like Lawton.
> "It's an appealing prospect and for those at the bottom of the pyramid
> living on a few dollars a day it is survival."
> He has no idea how to make that happen because he never faced the realities
> of living that lifestyle long term, preferring to push paper and find
> investors.
> The inspiring part::
> "I was equally blown away by the idea of Permaculture’s mimicking of
> ecologies in its design along with the sensibilities of overlaying sectors
> in zone patterns for greater efficiencies."
> what is a sector?
> what are overlaying sectors?
> what are zone patterns in the context of the zone concept"
> "overlaying sectors in zone patterns" "overlaying sectors in zone patterns
> for greater efficiencies"
> What does this mean?
>
> ---
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