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  • From: paul wheaton <paul@richsoil.com>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] Toward Financial Permaculture: New Farms in theOldSystem
  • Date: Tue, 1 Jan 2013 17:54:59 -0700

> Sepp's adoption of the word "permaculture" for his work is something I've
> wondered about.

Sepp told me that Mollison asked him to use the word to describe his stuff.

You have to respect Mollison's wishes.

Sepp refers to his stuff as "Holzer Permaculture".

I think the Holzer's stuff is riddled with Ethics, but it comes with
all of the little pieces. And then as people practice these things,
the world becomes a better place.

It is the reverse of what I think of as Holmgrenian: start by saying
the world is flawed, and then approach the problem from the
perspective of ethics and principles and, if you have an expert on all
this handy to keep those things from being misinterpreted, you end up
with something that smells Holzer-esque.

I think that the Holzer path is easier to comprehend and leads to
global solutions faster. But that's just me.

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