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[Dieter Brand <diebrand@yahoo.com>]

There is something about the idea of NF being elitist.  NFers certainly don't 
have the idea of feeding the people very close to their heart.  Anyways, 
calling it feudalistic is stretching things a little.  Most of all, NF is NOT 
a "concept".  Thinking of it in terms of a static concept will lead you into 
the wrong direction.  It is in its very essence dynamic, IF it does exist.  
And that is a big if.  Attaching Buddhist or other labels to it doesn't help 
either.  Linda was right about the idea of "design" distinguishing NF most 
clearly from Permaculture.  Aside from that, it could be pretty much 
anything.  It presupposes a "dialogue with nature" that will not be confined 
into the straightjacket of any preconceived "design".  Nature is always 
different, in each place, at each time, for each of us.  There is no 
one-fit-all solution to it.  That is uncomfortable.  That is the challenge.  

--- On Mon, 10/1/12, venaurafarm <venaurafarm@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> From: venaurafarm <venaurafarm@bellsouth.net>
> Subject: [permaculture] Brief comments on Natural Farming
> To: "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Date: Monday, October 1, 2012, 5:23 PM
> 
> - edited to present the essence of the article - LL
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [fukuoka_farming] Natural Farming
> From: iyo_farm <iyo.farm@ymail.com>
> 
> This is a genuine question which has been on my mind.
> 
> Agriculture for most is not a hobby or elite indulgence, it
> is a
> necessity. It is a necessity for all.
> 
> Farming is done by farmer. Farmers live in communities and
> have to
> organize those communities to work. They have to work
> collectively and
> deal with issues that arise.
> 
> The concept of Natural Farming goes further than just food
> production or 
>   business consulting. It is said to be the perfection
> of the self and 
> by extension the perfection of the community and by
> extension the
> perfection of the planet.
> 
> Actually, this is one of the Buddhist essences of Fukuoka's
> work.
> 
> Therefore, how do we visualize and realize our perfect
> farming community?
> 
> A feudalism ... elite control ... or a democracy in which
> the peasants
> (most of us, I guess) have a right to discuss issues that
> effect us and
> have our opinions heard and rightfully represented, free off
> the fear of 
> being "outcast" as if it was some medieval village.
> 
> Personally, I do not think such a feudalistic view is
> Natural Farming.
> Although Fukuoka was an elite, he rejected conformity, the
> pressures of
> the government and local village coops.
> 
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