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[Neil Bertrando <neilbertrando@gmail.com>]

Great Strategy Paul,

I'll start implementing that as well.  We have a local Makerspace that
started last summer, where I'd like to integrate some of these ideas to
promote Permaculture locally.

i.e. host workshops, notice other projects I'm interested in and say "Oh,
your doing Permaculture too..."

try to turn some ears and network with people with more diverse skill sets
and visions.

cheers,
Neil

ps. Paul you mentioned hugelkultur at some sites in Spain with very low
rainfall (3" per year range).  Can you send me some info on this or a
weblink, etc?


On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 11:02 AM, paul wheaton <paul@richsoil.com> wrote:

> (Neil, it was awesome to meet you at the convergence a few weeks back.
>  Hope to see you at more stuff)
>
> My strategy is to show something cool and then say "permaculture".
> And then make hundreds of cool things like that:
>
> rocket mass heater -> permaculture
> hugelkultur -> permaculture
> cob building -> permaculture
> cheaper lawn care -> permaculture
> cast iron skillets -> permaculture
> solar food dryer -> permaculture
> nettles -> permaculture
>
> And then the person says "hey, you know what I want to learn more
> about?  permaculture"
>
> By the end of this year I think I will have uttered "permaculture" in
> the ear of ten million people.
>
> I am constantly coming up with strategies to find groups of people
> that have never heard of permaculture before and to ....  plant the
> permaculture seed in their head.
>
> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Neil Bertrando
> <neilbertrando@gmail.com> wrote:
> > So, are there some preferred or suggested strategies for scaling this up
> > and fast tracking PDC access...I'd also like to learn more about post-PDC
> > education and apprentice-mentor programs to further develop and hone a
> > Permaculture design skill-set.
> >
> > Neil
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:49 AM, paul wheaton <paul@richsoil.com> wrote:
> >
> >> My guess would be that there are about 75,000.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Toby Hemenway <
> toby@patternliteracy.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > (from a conversation on another list; might be of general interest)
> >> >
> >> > A while back I saw a permie website that said there were a million PDC
> >> grads, and that struck me as insanely high. So I did a little
> arithmetic,
> >> and to get a million, given that the average PDC might have 25 students
> (I
> >> think it is probably less), you'd need 40,000 PDCs, or 2000 PDCs per
> year
> >> for the last 20 years. I can't conceive that there's been anything like
> >> that number.
> >> >
> >> > There is a pretty standard way that mathematicians get ballpark
> numbers.
> >> So: you work upwards, and figure that in the 1980s there may have been,
> >> what, 20 PDCs per year (I think that's generous, over the whole
> decade), in
> >> the 90s maybe 100 or 200 PDCs per year, and in the last decade, perhaps
> 400
> >> per year (again, I think these are generous numbers),
> >> >
> >> > That yields a total of about 6000 PDCs, times 25 students, and that
> >> gives you 150,000 PDC grads. I would consider that a maximum.
> >> >
> >> > This is why when people talk about the importance of intimate, small
> >> courses, I get fidgety.That's terrible for 30 years. How about  PDCs in
> 100
> >> universities with 500 students in each, like a Biology 101 survey class.
> >> >
> >> > Does anyone have a better handle on the numbers?
> >> >
> >> > Toby
> >> > http://patternliteracy.com
> >> >
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