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[Oystein Tandberg <oystein_tandberg@yahoo.no>]

If you don't know anything about the alternatives, this solution sounds good. 
This is an interview I hope many will watch. Then you can have a look at Bill 
Gates involvement in this issue, and deem for yourself if his money has been 
been used to the betterment of the people or not. I don't belive in a 
government that gives with one hand, and hits with the other. It's not like 
that. The US government has 2 million people with arms, including nuclear 
arms all around the world - they are not to be trusted - this is a typical 
government project, we need a new mindset, we need to govern ourselves for 
once and take care of our own crap. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=filb0s7oluI&feature=player_embedded

--- Den fre 2011-08-12 skrev loren luyendyk <loren@sborganics.com>:

> Fra: loren luyendyk <loren@sborganics.com>
> Emne: Re: [permaculture] The mission to build a toilet that utilises human 
> poo - News - The Ecologist - Sent using Google Toolbar
> Til: "Permaculture Listserve" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Dato: Fredag 12. august 2011 22.56
> 
> The real problem with this project is the price tag. 
> This leads people (public) to think that you need $42M to
> process our waste in a clean way, and therefor is out of the
> commoner's reach.  
> 
> Still... its a "baby step".
> Loren Luyendyk
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> 
> > From: christopher.nesbitt@mmrfbz.org
> > Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 10:28:27 -0600
> > To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
> > Subject: Re: [permaculture] The mission to build a
> toilet that utilises    human poo - News -
> The Ecologist - Sent using Google Toolbar
> > 
> > And his operating system is crap, too. But tell us how
> you really feel.
> > On Aug 12, 2011, at 3:04 AM, Oystein Tandberg wrote:
> > 
> > > Bill Gates is a menace to humanity. He is the
> complete oppsite of Permaculture, in my opinion. He is
> monoculture GMO Roundup WWF nature reservoire while starving
> the caretakers of the forest, injecting mercury into
> newborns while spraying the coulds to manipulate the
> climate.. Shame on Bill Gates, his mother and his entire
> family. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- Den fre 2011-08-12 skrev Cory <cory8570@yahoo.com>:
> > > 
> > >> Fra: Cory <cory8570@yahoo.com>
> > >> Emne: Re: [permaculture] The mission to build
> a toilet that utilises human poo - News - The Ecologist -
> Sent using Google Toolbar
> > >> Til: "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > >> Dato: Fredag 12. august 2011 01.22
> > >> Add a methane digester and you'd have
> > >> it. Of course it will be centralized so that
> a large
> > >> corporation can profit on our poo, that's why
> it costs 42
> > >> million. 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> On Aug 11, 2011, at 7:05 PM, "Bob Waldrop"
> <bwaldrop@cox.net>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> 
> > >> Sounds like a basic composting toilet to me,
> bucket with
> > >> lid plus compost 
> > >> pile in back.
> > >> 
> > >> Bob Waldrop, Oklahoma City
> > >> 
> > >> -----Original Message----- 
> > >> From: Lawrence London
> > >> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:59 PM
> > >> To: permaculture
> > >> Subject: [permaculture] The mission to build
> a toilet that
> > >> utilises human 
> > >> poo - News - The Ecologist - Sent using
> Google Toolbar
> > >> 
> > >> The mission to build a toilet that utilises
> human poo -
> > >> News - The
> > >> Ecologist - Sent using Google Toolbar
> > >> http://www.theecologist.org/News/news_analysis/1012244/the_mission_to_build_a_toilet_that_utilises_human_poo.html
> > >> 
> > >> "
> > >> 
> > >> The mission to build a toilet that utilises
> human poo
> > >> 
> > >> Paul Miles
> > >> 
> > >> 11th August, 2011
> > >> 
> > >> The Gates Foundation has just announced a $42
> million
> > >> project over
> > >> several years to develop a toilet that
> doesn't need water,
> > >> mains power
> > >> or sewerage and that will cost next to
> nothing
> > >> 
> > >> Imagine a toilet that takes human waste and
> converts it
> > >> into minerals
> > >> for fertiliser and clean water, while
> harvesting energy in
> > >> the
> > >> process."
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