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I have had no problem growing cattails any where.  They have to have  lots 
of water but... continuous damp will work perfectly.  That seems to be  all 
that is necessary I find that compost and manure seem to really help.   If 
you have damp soil and manure and cattail seeds you will have a bumper crop  
of cattails.  Good luck on this project.  You do know that the  cattail is 
almost an entire groceries store.  The roots produce an  eatable excellent 
starch.  The new shoots are some what chewie but taste  like asparagus .  The 
seed head as it just starts can be steamed and  tastes like corn.  the 
pollen can be harvested and used in baking  about one half to one quarter in 
flour to get a nuttie buttery taste to  baked goods,  The long leaves can be 
used to weave mats and soft  baskets. 
Good luck  On your project.
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I can see how somebody could guess a high number if they live in an
area thick with PDCs and permaculture designers.

I would guess that there are 50 PDCs a year with 20 per PDC - so 1000
graduates per year.   Maybe we are getting more than 50 now and much
less than 50 ten years ago.  But 20 years at 1000 per year comes in at
20,000.

I would also guess that for every graduate, there are five enthusiasts
that have not yet taken a PDC.  And I would rate these enthusiasts as
somebody having a permaculture knowledge level as about par with the
average graduate. (thanks, in a large part, to the many fine books out
there right now - including yours Toby)

Qualifier:  lots of guessing here.

Final analysis:  I think there is a huge growth rate here and that is
awesome!  Hot dog!

meta summary:  the word "analysis" has the word "anal" in it.

On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Toby Hemenway
<toby@patternliteracy.com> wrote:
>
> Stacia Nordin wrote
>
>>
>> =A0There are over 1000000 PDC graduates around the globe and amazing tea=
chers virtually everywhere!
>>
>
> That number falls apart under even a simple analysis. The average PDC has=
 about 20 people; some more, many less. A million PDC grads at an average o=
f 20 people per PDC requires 50,000 PDCs taught. There weren't many PDCs in=
 the 1980s, so the bulk have been in the last 20 years. So you need about 2=
500 PDCs taught per year for 20 years to make 50,000 of them. I figure 100 =
PDCs or so taught in the 1980s (even if it was 1000, these numbers hold).
>
> Do we really think there have been 2500 PDCs taught each year? I think it=
's more like 250 PDCs, maybe, per year since 1990--more lately, less in the=
 nineties. To see that trend and see fair numbers for North America along, =
look at the Activist calendar.
>
> I suspect the number of PDC grads is closer to 100,000 than a million. If=
 anyone comes up with different numbers, I'm open to revision.
>
> It bugs me to see a statement that has obviously involved no thinking thr=
ough.
>
>
> Toby
> http://patternliteracy.com
>
>
>
>>>> From: "Stacia Nordin, RD"<nordinmalawi@gmail.com>
>>>> Date: 5 April 2011 12:48:04 AM AEST
>>>> To: "PermaCulture-Malawi"<PermaCulture-Malawi@yahoogroups.com>,<ipc-pu=
blic@ipcon.org>
>>>> Subject: [Ipc-public] Free PDC video being developed (not for certific=
ate)
>>>>
>>>> FYI for those that have not seen it, sorry if I=92m double posting it.
>>>>
>>>> I=92ve written to them to note that Africa is being left out of the tr=
ip and to see if anything can be done to change the plans so African contin=
ent is included.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.impermanencefilm.org/free-pdc.html
>>>>
>>>> As this film project is about creating open sourced resources for the =
world in this time of great transition we could not think of a better way t=
o officially launch the project than create a beautiful High Definition pro=
fessional recording of a full 72 hr PDC course and put it online as a free =
resource for the world!
>>>>
>>>> We are excited to also bring the personal and community building aspec=
ts into the film, with an exciting range of topics adding edges to the conv=
entional course format (evening activities, etc.) =A0This will bring the vi=
ewer as close as possible to the heart of the experience. =A0Supplemented w=
ith slideshows, links to videos online and stills and diagrams, this will m=
ake an epic resource and reference for people all over the globe.
>>>>
>>>> If you have slideshows, essays, etc you feel moved to contribute pleas=
e get in contact integralpermanence at gmail dot com
>>>>
>>>> Please note that you cannot get an official PC Design Certificate for =
watching a PDC course. =A0The instruction and learning is much more rich, i=
ntegrative and alive if you attend a course in person, as part of the mini =
community that forms for the duration of the course. =A0Your learning and s=
ynthesis process will likely be much more effective when you attend a cours=
e with all your senses present- watching a screen is not a substitute for g=
etting your hands dirty! =A0There are over 1000000 PDC graduates around the=
 globe and amazing teachers virtually everywhere!
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> Stacia Nordin, RD
>>>> Registered Dietitian
>>>> Advisor to Malawi Ministry of Education, School Health and Nutrition
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