permaculture

[Toby Hemenway <toby@patternliteracy.com>]

I first ran into the mana powder in the nineties. The oceanplasma.org site 
made me laugh out loud a dozen times with its pseudoscientific nonsense and 
egregious errors. I have no idea if the stuff works or not, but the basis 
they give it is hilariously wrong. They are clueless about geology 

"In several million more years, nature will succeed in completely eroding the 
land masses so that the sea will once more cover the earth")

Uh, plate tectonics, anyone?

physiology,

"It has been estimated that a definite physiological role for a particular 
element is newly discovered on an average of one every 10 years"

 (it's more like dozens each year)

as well as soil biology, physics, nutrition, and nearly every other field 
they blunder around in. Too bad, especially if "white powder gold" actually 
works. 

Toby
http://patternliteracy.com



On Feb 28, 2011, at 10:18 AM, loren luyendyk wrote:

> 
> Just because you don't understand something doesn't make it untrue or that 
> it doesn't work.
> 
> Video of David Hudson explaining how he discovered ORMES (he was a farmer 
> by the way).
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K69iqBiyjio
> 
> It is actually ORMES, and it stands for "orbitally rearranged monatomic 
> elements".  Another common name is "white powder gold", or "mana".  My 
> understanding is that it contains a high percentage of precious metals (ie 
> micronutrients), which are also in seawater, which may be why kelp/seaweed 
> is such a great fertilizer:
> http://www.oceanplasma.org/documents/agriculture.html
> 
> If you look at Biodynamics, the preps are really compost teas, brewed for 
> specific microorganisms.  The hocus-pocus that people are wary of 
> (following the cycles of the planets) is important since the energy of the 
> planets affects energy flow in plants (ie the effects of the moon on sap 
> flow), and the efficacy of the teas is dependent on these cycles.    
> 
> They make some pretty far-out claims for ORMES, like levitation and 
> interdimensional phase shifting, which is besides the point for this forum, 
> unless we want to go down the quantum physics rabbit hole.  If you do read 
> this: http://www.rexresearch.com/ormes/ormes.htm
> 
> Claims are that ORMES help with plant nutrition, if you got some try it 
> out.  Probably won't hurt as much as not trying....
> 
> Loren Luyendyk
> (805) 452-8249
> www.sborganics.com
> www.surferswithoutborders.org
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 22:41:35 -0500
>> From: venaurafarm@bellsouth.net
>> To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
>> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Ormus
>> 
>> On 2/27/2011 8:40 PM, Jake Bucy wrote:
>> 
>>> I am wondering if anybody on this list has any experiences with
>>> reminerializing their land with Ormus?
>> 
>> 
>> I took a look at their website once....
>> 
>> Some of the biodynamic crowd seem attracted to this; that's where I 
>> found out about it.
>> 
>> Just get out the hand tools, seeds, mulch, compost and natural mineral 
>> fertilizer soil amendments if you have any. Go out to the field or 
>> garden and get to work (its called hand labor), hope for adequate 
>> sunlight and rainfall. Grow the crops, harvest, eat well, sell some if 
>> you have any extra.
>> 
>> May Ormus guide you in this!
>> 
>> Right on mIEKAL!
>> 
>> Eye of newt, toe of dog, oil of snake...........
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