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[loren luyendyk <loren@sborganics.com>]

Scott-
You may want to take a look at the book "Toilets that Make Compost" (download 
free: http://www.ecosanres.org/toilets_that_make_compost.htm).  Many designs 
of different toilets, but mostly for tropical climate.  You may consider 
whether or not you want to do urine diversion.  Urine may help in the winter 
to heat things up (nitrogen), though you want to make sure its not too wet.  
You probably want to build the composting chamber super insulated with cob so 
that it doesn't freeze.  Worms are great addition to the compost chamber but 
need some warmth.
I assume in Maine you have water, so you may consider a methane digesting 
toilet (link: http://www.cityfarmer.org/biogasPaul.html).  You get methane 
gas and also can worm compost the sludge for use on crops.
Loren Luyendyk
(805) 452-8249
www.sborganics.com
www.surferswithoutborders.org




> Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 08:43:44 -0800
> From: cobanation@yahoo.com
> To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Composting toilet for Community Garden
> 
> Dear Scott,
> The oder issues are because they aren't maintained properly and that people 
> think they are going to smell. Use glass blocks to let in the sun to rise 
> the 
> air and put roses herbs of all kinds on the intake vent of the small cob 
> building. Find an artist to build cute microb puppets that educate the 
> people 
> and for good measure put the prices of sewage treatment plants framed on 
> the 
> wall. Don't forget the stories of how our oceans and water supply is being 
> polluted. oh, but wait, there's plenty of leaves people rake up throw away 
>  killing their trees you can use. Finally, find all the peddles of the 
> roses, 
> flowers and anything organic that smalls nice and make duff that can 
> sweeten the 
> load as a poopery garden soil. Hope that helps.
> 
> P.S. Europe has composting toilet everywhere and haven't had problems. It's 
> just 
> that the USA is really uneducated about it.         
>  The Great Challenges we now face as a species present the very 
> opportunities 
> that are giving birth to Ecological, Psychological, and Spiritual 
> Sustainability.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Scott Vlaun <scott@moosepondarts.com>
> To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 7:32:03 AM
> Subject: [permaculture] Composting toilet for Community Garden
> 
> HI All,
> 
> Our community garden in Norway Maine is looking for a "best practice" 
> solution 
> to compost human waste on site. (Not for use in the garden)
> 
> Since the garden is in a neighborhood, we need to avoid any odor issues. 
> I'm a 
> long-time sawdust/bucket/bin humanure composter, but for a public site like 
> this 
> we need something that requires no handling of "live" waste and will be a 
> good 
> demonstration/model for the community.
> 
> During the season we might have a dozen or more people using the toilet on 
> a 
> given day. Winter use would be very limited, but it would be great to have 
> a 
> system that works in the cold as well. The site is off-grid so high 
> electric use 
> is not an option.
> 
> Any thoughts, links, or references to working systems would be much 
> appreciated.
> 
> Enjoy the strengthening sun!
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
> Scott Vlaun Moose Pond Arts+Ecology Design Solutions for a Sustainable 
> Future
> 450 Main Street, Studio 2, Norway, Maine 04268 • 207-739-2409
> 
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