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  • From: DGilsen@aol.com
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  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] problem gophers
  • Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:31:46 -0500 (EST)

I had a similar problem, even with world class mousers, my cats were
overwhelmed . One night with a full bladder I was heading to the house to
do
my business and passed a gopher hole that a gopher had just gone down. I
emptied my bladder down the hole and that hole never was occupied again .I
started fillings each gopher hole the same way and the gophers seemed to just
go away. This also works on large black and red ant nests, but that took
several applications. I now fill a jar and as I water and harvest I also
soak any varmint holes I find . Funny but true.
Carol
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Subject: [permaculture] Trader Joe's
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I'm with Amy. I live in a small town that doesn't have Co-ops, Farmer's
Markets, Whole Foods. People here are still in the beginnings of being
educated about sustainability.

I think that Trader Joe's is deceptive. When people here talk about
wanting one its because its 1) cheap (which is true) 2) organic 3)
sustainable.
In reality it is not really organic, sustainable, or to add another
important category, local.

I would rather our town talk about how to start a small independent food
store, or how to start a Farmer's Market, and I feel that a TJ here would
divert that energy elsewhere and the conversation would be over. Trader
Joe's has a reputation for being 'green' without actually doing the
legwork.

I'm going to keep on talking to my neighbors about truly sustainable
options. Trader Joe's doesn't get my money or my attention.

Kelda Miller
Sumner, WA





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