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[Mitra Sticklen <mitra.sticklen@gmail.com>]

Cory,

Growing Power has a great network of teaching and working farms, including
systems that integrate urban aquaponics systems. See more at
http://www.growingpower.org/aquaponics.htm ... for the SE, the closest
Growing Power regional center is probably at Ft. Valley State in Georgia ...
good luck!

-Mitra


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>      conventional) - chemistry and extraction methods
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>   4. advice needed - a baby deer hurt (Danijela Babic)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 14:06:13 -0500
> From: Jono Neiger <neiger@csld.edu>
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> PINE; Permaculture Institute of the Northeast U.S. www.thepine.org
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>
> This has been a busy fall for our *regional Permaculture organization*.
> It?s
> an exciting time and there is much work to do in connecting people to local
> organizations, projects, and learning opportunities.
>
>
>
> *501c3*
>
> We are proud to announce that P.I.N.E., Permaculture Institute of the
> Northeast, has received its non-profit status and is now officially a 501c3
> non-profit organization. We look forward to supporting the regional network
> with this new tool at our disposal.
>
>
>
> *Board of Directors Expands:*
>
> At our October meeting we brought on two new members, Lisa Fernandez of
> Portland, Maine, and Alice Lo of New York City.  This brings our board up
> to
> seven, with members from New York, Vermont, Massachussetts, and Maine.
>
>
>
> *The current PINE Board is--*
>
> Jono Neiger, Leverett, Ma
>
> Roxy Finn, Chicopee, Ma
>
> Mark Krawczyk, Burlington, Vt
>
> Keith Morris, Jeffersonville, Vt
>
> Steve Gabriel, Ithaca, NY
>
> Lisa Fernandez, Portland, Me
>
> Alice Lo, N.Y., N.Y.
>
>
>
> *Winter strategy/network meetings*
>
> As in past years, we?ll be organizing several winter strategy meetings.
> These are chances to meet with people from various parts of the region,
> talk
> about issues that are central to our work, and look for ways to get more
> leverage from our work. We?ll let you know when and where these meetings
> will be held.
>
>
>
> Keep up the good work
>
>
> For the Earth
>
> Jono
>
>
> PINE; Permaculture Institute of the Northeast
> www.thepine.org
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 10:24:16 -0500
> From: "Lawrence F. London, Jr." <lflj@bellsouth.net>
> To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: [permaculture] FYI: Fwd: Re: [SANET-MG] Soil phosphate (was
>        organic vrs conventional) - chemistry and extraction methods
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> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [SANET-MG] Soil phosphate (was organic vrs conventional) -
> chemistry and extraction methods
> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 10:01:11 -0500
> To: SANET-MG@LISTS.IFAS.UFL.EDU
>
> Hello folks,
>
> Elaine recently commented at some length on how soil testing labs use a
> variety of different analytical methods
> (extractant, shake time...) and consequently widely varying results
> are/would be produced if the same soil was analyzed
> by many different labs.
>
> For example:
>
> Elaine wrote:
> >Therefore, the soluble phosphate values given on a chemistry report
>  reflect the extracting agent used.  I use a lab in Australia to do my
> soil chemistry assessments, because they give >me data that includes 4
> different extraction methods for soluble PO4.  I always have to giggle a
>  bit when the values for soluble PO$ range from 0.5 micrograms, to 150
> micrograms, >and values in between, all depending on which extraction
> method was used.
> >
> > So, which one do you believe?
> >
>
> The quantity of nutrients measured when a soil sample is subjected to a
> routine extraction followed by analysis of
> extract procedure (I am referring to routine soil testing methods intended
> for guiding nutrient management decisions as
> opposed other types of soil analysis)  is ***NOT*** intended to be a direct
> measure of the amount of nutrients that is
> available or will be available in the near future for crop uptake.
>
> Extractable nutrient levels have **NO** meaning without field research
> showing how crop performance (or other phenomena
> such as environmental impact) relates to the extractable nutrient levels
> obtained using a particular soil testing
> method. This type of field research is called soil test calibration and is
> a critical part of the development of soil
> testing methods.
>
> I seriously hope for many reasons (not the least of which is that Australia
> is far away and soil is heavy stuff!) that
> Elaine is not actually sending soil samples from US farms to an Australian
> lab for routine soil testing.
>
> Routine soil analysis should be performed by local/regional labs that use
> analytical and interpretation methods that
> have been shown through calibration experiments to be well suited for
> guiding nutrient/environmental management
> decisions for particular soils.
>
> The use of soil testing to guide management decisions is both an art and a
> science but lots of good science has been
> done...
>
> I'm out of time for now... more later.
>
> Joel
>
> Joel Gruver
>
> School of Agriculture
>
> Western Illinois University
>
> jgruv@hotmail.com
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 09:21:22 -0800 (PST)
> From: Cory Brennan <cory8570@yahoo.com>
> To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: [permaculture] Aquaponics
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> I have a friend who wants to get into aquaponics in a big way. He wants to
> do it very intensively, but as sustainably as possible, a circular system
> with few inputs and little or no pollution. Who out there has such a system,
> in the US, preferably the SE area (anywhere worldwide is of interest, tho,
> if it's a large and really workable system)? ?Aquaponics is not an area I've
> done much with yet.?
> Cory?
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 18:34:43 +0100
> From: Danijela Babic <dbabic@zamir.net>
> To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: [permaculture] advice needed - a baby deer hurt
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> Dear all,
> Is there anybody who has any experience with baby deer that was
> seriously hurt by lawn mover? Three legs were cut, out of which two
> front legs were cut low -only above hoofs. We are looking for solution
> to create some kind of artificial limbs so that deer can walk a bit. It
> is 5 months old now.
> Any suggestions? Any similar cases around the world?
> thanks
> Danijela
>
>
> On 12.11.2010 18:21, Cory Brennan wrote:
> > I have a friend who wants to get into aquaponics in a big way. He wants
> to do it very intensively, but as sustainably as possible, a circular system
> with few inputs and little or no pollution. Who out there has such a system,
> in the US, preferably the SE area (anywhere worldwide is of interest, tho,
> if it's a large and really workable system)?  Aquaponics is not an area I've
> done much with yet.
> > Cory
> >
> >
> >
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> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 13:22:04 -0500
> From: Jonathan Storvick <jstorvick@gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [permaculture] Aquaponics
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> I'm not sure about the southeast, but in Mesa, AZ some intrepid folks have
> created a fully-functional aquaponics/greenhouse setup converted from an
> empty swimming pool.  They had planned to aim for complete food
> self-sufficency in about 3 years, but managed to get there in just one.
> They have a pretty cool website with detailed videos, SketchUp models, and
> so forth:
>
> http://gardenpool.org/
>
> I'm in Northern VA and have also been looking for regional functioning
> aquaponic systems, but haven't really found anything.  If I do, I'll
> definitely post it here.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jon
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Cory Brennan <cory8570@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > I have a friend who wants to get into aquaponics in a big way. He wants
> to
> > do it very intensively, but as sustainably as possible, a circular system
> > with few inputs and little or no pollution. Who out there has such a
> system,
> > in the US, preferably the SE area (anywhere worldwide is of interest,
> tho,
> > if it's a large and really workable system)?  Aquaponics is not an area
> I've
> > done much with yet.
> > Cory
> >
> >
> >
> >
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