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[chauncey williams <chaunceyfree@yahoo.com>]

I agree with Cory.  Our communication with each other needs to be changed.  I 
have recently begun reading the Permaculture Designers manual by Bill 
Mollison.  In the introduction, if not in the first paragraph, he states that 
Permaculture is not going to be focusing on the problems, but on the 
solutions only. The rest of the book goes on to focus on solutions.
Maybe as we communicate, we can leave out all the negative talk and focus on 
what we are positively doing and what others are positively doing.  There is, 
however always room for constructive criticism.
We are all doing good work, some of us find it valuable to teach people who 
are in positions of influence, others want to empower the disempowered.  We 
are all birds of a different feather and that is the way it is meant to be.  
Some of us may want to get a diploma in Permaculture (did anyone read what 
the diploma program is trying to accomplish?, they are seeking your input), 
others may want to follow are looser approach.  It is all good, because we 
will find that our impact on this world will take place in many different 
ways.

There are many schools of thought on who can teach Permaculture, I think that 
we should all be held responsible to teach others what we've learned.  Some 
of us may teach it in a formalized structure such as a PDC, others one on one 
through cultural mentoring.  Some of us may teach the rich, some of us may be 
reaching out to the poor.  Let us embrace it all, support one another and 
send this movement into every household in the nation.  Let us focus on all 
of the great work that we are collectively doing.
I feel blessed that there are so many passionate people trying to make a 
difference in this world.  Keep up the GREAT work, everyone.
Sean

--- On Tue, 10/26/10, Cory <cory8570@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Cory <cory8570@yahoo.com>
Subject: [permaculture] Internet communication using Permaculture
To: "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Tuesday, October 26, 2010, 5:00 AM

Reading over the communication on this list over the past weeks I've been 
struck with how insidiously cultural paradigms can be grooved in on even very 
conscious people.
In a competitive paradigm rather than a cooperative one, people communicate 
in order to convince others that they are right, that they have a correct 
viewpoint. Because competition operates on win-lose dichotomies, rather than 
win-win, that means the other person must be wrong in order for you to be 
right. 

This is linked closely with the concept of survival- if you are too wrong, 
you are dead. 

In a cooperative paradigm, people communicate in order to establish 
beneficial connection. In fact, one could say that communication IS the 
establishment of beneficial connection. 

In a cooperative paradigm you become more right (more survival potential) by 
helping others survive and be "right" too. 

I've realized that my own communication style sometimes reflects the 
competitive, win-lose paradigm, and that viewpoint shift on this one aspect 
alone can shift the entire flavor of communication and increase yield 
dramatically. 

There is a place for competition in the system but this realization has just 
helped me be more conscious of how I choose to manifest it, and helped me to 
see some cultural-social patterns I had not viewed with such clarity 
previously. Hmm, having more realizations, i am now going off to explore the 
patterns that arise from this more thoroughly.....

Love, Cory




      
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Great topic.
We have been working to renovate a derelict ten acre apple orchard into a
polyculture of gardens trees and pasture.  I would like to share this years
growing experience.  I have adopted the nutrient dense soil remineralization
theory that embraces the notion of insects and diseases as trash collectors,
with their actions providing the litmus test for soil health. As taught by
Arden Anderson, Jerry Brunetti and many others in the biological farming
network.  Therefore I use no poisons or cides to discourage or deflect the
actions of insects and rely on the plants health as well as natural
predators to dispel them.  This last year in the orchard I experienced a
great loss of fruit from insect damage in areas where I did a lot of mowing.
This loss of fruit was in contrast to an area where I allowed the plant
community to come up unmolested for the entire season.  Fruit from trees
adjoining this "neglected" area were far less affected by insect damage. My
understanding is that this was due to the insect predators living in the
areas that were allowed to self express in native plants for the entire
season without any mowing, fire or grazing.  This next season I intend to do
no mowing in the orchard rows to create insectaries in order to work towards
the Natural balance between bugs and bug eaters as well as provide habitat
for native pollinators that require continual floral resources to complete
their life cycles.
As to slugs I have found that garter snakes are huge slug hunters that only
need some good cover in the garden - leaf cover or mulch to hide under to do
their work and some south facing stone walls for overwintering.

Steven Eisenhauer
Eisenhauer Design @ Spring Mountain Farm






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[mailto:permaculture-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Lawrence F.
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Subject: Re: [permaculture] 'Balanced' Ecosystems Seen In Organic Ag Better
At Controlling Pests


> 'Balanced' Ecosystems Seen In Organic Ag Better At Controlling Pests
>
http://www.seeddaily.com/reports/Balanced_Ecosystems_Seen_In_Organic_Ag_Bett
er_At_Controlling_Pests_999.html

> "by Staff Writers
> Pullman WA (SPX) Jul 02, 2010
> There really is a balance of nature, but as accepted as that thought is,
> it has rarely been studied. Now Washington State University researchers
> writing in the journal Nature have found that more balanced animal and
> plant communities
> typical of organic farms work better at fighting pests and growing a
> better plant."

This obviously means less monocropping and more polyculture and diverse
integrated farming operations with scaled up permaculture systems to
meet the needs of the farm site and the cropland. This is the future of
farming.

This subject should be tagged for thread development in this list or in
the blog(s).

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