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[negiliblek <negiliblek@yahoo.com>]

Paul,

Since you're other profession is Information Technology, I suspect you're 
familiar with how the Open Source world works.

You could approach it from the point of view that you're glad they are using 
your information because it's open sourced (assuming you want to open source 
it), however, did they know, that for the open source world to be successful, 
credit must be given to the originators.

This way, you encourage the spread of good information, and the modifying of 
an idea with a pointer back to the original idea. 

Your reputation grows and so does theirs IF their idea based on your original 
idea innately holds merit (as borne out by the "users" of that idea).  

This is competition which is based on cooperation rather than domination in 
which ideas win and not individuals, where individuals stock and value is 
their ability to create and modify, not how many patents they can repress an 
idea's progress with.

You could put GPL tags (or some other variant) and/or a short statement like:

"If you credit me with a link to the original web page on my site, feel free 
to reuse information from my website. Otherwise, you may not reuse or 
re-distribute information from my site."

The Open Source world polices itself by both positive and negative feed back 
to the successful, the unsuccessful and the leeches. So, until people 
understand the concept of giving credit in as done in the Open Source world, 
you'll have to deal with some negativity.

If you haven't already read this (or know it's concepts), here's an article 
from Damn Small Linux (if you've the time to read it all the way through, you 
find mention of plagiarism in it):

http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/income-guide/intro.html

I like what you've done in such a short time Paul, I wish you the best 
whatever you choose (and I really hope you choose the open source path).






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I've done open source, public domain, shareware, freeware, etc.  Lists
and lists of so many flavors of all this.  I don't suppose anybody
here used something called "bananacom" back in the mid 90's?

For a variety of reasons, I use a plain and simple copyright.  The key
is that if there is more than one copy of stuff on the internet, that
leads to problems.  If there is just one copy and then there are links
to that one copy, then all is well.

Once in a while I get an email from somebody that says they are
leading a workshop and they want to have handouts for 25 people and
could they hand out one of my articles.  So I give permission provided
that it is clear where it came from.  All good.

If our mission is to make the world a better place, then we need to
embrace the internet and be smart.  A huge amount of toxicity comes
from lawns, so I wrote my lawn care article in an attempt to persuade
folks to stop using toxic gick on their lawns.  Most of the traffic
comes from google.  If somebody copies the article, google penalizes
both sites because google thinks there is some sort of shenanigans.
Therefore, to have many copies of the same thing is not smart.   If
there were 100 pages with links to one article, then google likes that
and more people will see that information.  That is smart.

Open source is great for some things.  But not for this.

On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 9:31 AM, negiliblek <negiliblek@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Paul,
>
> Since you're other profession is Information Technology, I suspect you're 
> familiar with how the Open Source world works.
>
> You could approach it from the point of view that you're glad they are 
> using your information because it's open sourced (assuming you want to open 
> source it), however, did they know, that for the open source world to be 
> successful, credit must be given to the originators.
>
> This way, you encourage the spread of good information, and the modifying 
> of an idea with a pointer back to the original idea.
>
> Your reputation grows and so does theirs IF their idea based on your 
> original idea innately holds merit (as borne out by the "users" of that 
> idea).
>
> This is competition which is based on cooperation rather than domination in 
> which ideas win and not individuals, where individuals stock and value is 
> their ability to create and modify, not how many patents they can repress 
> an idea's progress with.
>
> You could put GPL tags (or some other variant) and/or a short statement 
> like:
>
> "If you credit me with a link to the original web page on my site, feel 
> free to reuse information from my website. Otherwise, you may not reuse or 
> re-distribute information from my site."
>
> The Open Source world polices itself by both positive and negative feed 
> back to the successful, the unsuccessful and the leeches. So, until people 
> understand the concept of giving credit in as done in the Open Source 
> world, you'll have to deal with some negativity.
>
> If you haven't already read this (or know it's concepts), here's an article 
> from Damn Small Linux (if you've the time to read it all the way through, 
> you find mention of plagiarism in it):
>
> http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/income-guide/intro.html
>
> I like what you've done in such a short time Paul, I wish you the best 
> whatever you choose (and I really hope you choose the open source path).
>
>
>
>
>
>
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