permaculture

[Udan Farm <udanfarm@yahoo.com>]

Hey folks,just putting it out there that we have a couple of spaces left for 
the Permaculture Design Course at Koinonia Farm in Americus, Georgia, USA, 
which starts Feb.7th at 6pm. Teachers are Chuck Marsh, Patricia Allison, Bob 
Burns and guests. Course includes dorm-style rooms and great food. 
Full price tuition is $900 but for anyone signing up today by credit card 
we'll give a $50 discount -so that's ONLY $850 for a PDC!Go to 
www.georgiapermaculture.com for more info or go straight to 
www.koinoniapartners.org and make a "Donation" for $850, then call Sarah 
Prendergast at Koinonia 




229-924-0391



and let her know you are signing up last minute for the course!But you MUST 
sign up by 9pm tonight!

PLUS, the best part, it's supposed to be in the 60's and SUNNY there in the 
next few days, so if you are sick of snow and ice come south!

Hope to see you there!Isabel CrabtreeCentral Georgia Permaculture Institute



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From: mIEKAL aND<qazingulaza@gmail.com>
>Sent: Jan 28, 2010 4:48 PM
>To: permaculture<permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
>Subject: Re: [permaculture] Gutter options for water catchment from a barn
>
>On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Paul Cross<charybda@newmex.com>  wrote:

> >>  You don't say anything about the climate you're in or what you're
> >>  sending the water into, so it's a little more of a challenge to respond.
>
>
>Paul, I'm in southwest Wisconsin which annually gets lows below -25F.
>My hope is to put the water either in a cistern or if I can figure it
>out, one of the unused silos that are attached to the barn.  Even
>better would be to deliver it inside a greenhouse&  supply some kind
>of low input aquaculture.
>
>

> >>
> >>  If you have snow or hail, catching on the ground works better than
> >>  gutters. A lined trench can send water to a pond, or underground
> >>  cistern, or even a sump basin with a pump (option of last resort.) Snow
> >>  and hail can slide right past the gutter or clog it.
>
>
>Do you know of examples that have done the lined trench concept, I've
>never seen it done?
>
>~mIEKAL


I have one agricultural scale one here and I've got pictures of it. I will 
email you directly. I've also seen some examples covered on youtube at a SE 
US pc demo site, so maybe I can find that one for you too.

Paul