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  • From: Wesley Roe and Santa Barbara Permaculture Network <lakinroe@silcom.com>
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  • Subject: [permaculture] Haiti /AID Bill Mollison quote Permaculture Design Manual
  • Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 08:25:30 -0800


"Aid is a necessary but delicate affair; some forms of aid can produce

dependency, facilitate further inequities in a society, destroy or impair

cultural values, decrease the yields of the environment, upset balance

nutritional habits, or actually destroy sustainable local ecologies or

agricultural systems."

Bill Mollison Permaculture Design Manual
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I would not be concerned about using old cedar in hugelkultur beds. To
accelerate breakdown add urine (to feed bacterial decomposers) and sugar (to
feed fungal decomposers). Add a bit of limestone if you want a more alkaline
pH. If there's still some decent solid wood in any of the rails I'd keep
using them for fencing or for heating fuel.


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From: Armed With A Mind Armed With A Mind <armedwithamind@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [permaculture] Question About Hugelkultur Mounds


I have the blessing of several thousand feet of half-rotted cedar rail fencing
which seems too far gone to use >to build or burn in the wood stove.

I'm wondering if making hugelkultur beds made predominantly with cedar rails
would make for a bed that is too acidic for most vegetable plants? I recall
in Gaia's Garden that Toby mentions using cedar posts to make beds for
blueberries which leads me to believe this to be true. If so, would I be
correct in assuming that sprinkling wood ash over top of the cedar would
mitigate the acidity? And if this is true, would the ash be best spread on
top of the soil/manure which is placed on top of the cedar? Maybe I just need
to think about planting a few acres of blueberries and cranberries...



Any light shed on this would be greatly appreciated,



Travis

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