permaculture

[LINDARAY@att.net]

Hello Gavin,

Great video on your site ref the backyard garden. It looks wonderful, 
especially the Corn, Kale and tomatoes :).

So, here's a question- What if you did your once-a-week class out of 
Oakland's Planting Justice, and on your own? If you did that, wouldn't it 
work better than being part of some other (controversial) affiliation (for 
whom it is clear that you will have to keep making excuses)?

I hope you will consider it.

Namaste,
Linda
Save the Earth, it's the only planet with chocolate
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> Hey there, This is gavin from Planting Justice. Did you see my email to the 
> listserv detailing my credentials and experience teaching permaculture and 
> designing? We are doing great work out here in Oakland, you can check out 
> our projects at 
> www.plantingjustice.org 
> I am teaching a weekly urban permaculture course at common circle, on the 
> side. I support the work it seems you are doing to promote permaculture in 
> the SE...and hopefully you can support the work that I and Planting Justice 
> are 
> doing, including teaching our weekly class at common circle. 
> Cheers, 
> Gavin 
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Udan Farm 
> Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 11:20:34 
> To: 
> Cc: 
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] [earthactivist] Does anyone have info on? 
> Mr. Davidzon,I can understand your wish not to share information about your 
> teachers unless they authorize it, but it is not politics to show 
> legitimate 
> teaching credentials if your company is making money off of the word 
> permaculture. 
> Mollison set up the PDC so 
> that those who have received a Permaculture Design Certificate after taking 
> a 
> certificate course are authorized to teach-although MOST teachers now 
> require 
> that if you want to teach that you have some teachers training after your 
> PDC.  
> This is the way that the legitimate permaculture teachers maintain the 
> overall 
> quality of the word Permaculture, which they have worked hard to be able to 
> use, 
> legitimately. There are no Permaculture police, only legitimate teachers. 
> I see no harm in the transparency of your teachers credentials. It may be a 
> ""deliberate marketing tactic" but it is not good permaculture. 
> Would anyone else like to comment? 
> 
> 'dohi'Isabel 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Wed, 12/16/09, Vladislav Davidzon wrote: 
> 
> From: Vladislav Davidzon 
> Subject: Re: [earthactivist] Does anyone have info on? 
> To: earthactivist@yahoogroups.com 
> Date: Wednesday, December 16, 2009, 12:55 PM 
> 
> Hi there, 
> 
> Common Circle Education is my company;  we're in our fifth year 
> of operations and have programs in three 
> states;  we just opened 
> our new school in Berkeley, CA where I am based, offering over 
> 200 hours *every month* of permaculture, nvc, yoga, and meditation. 
> 
> I have studied with Starhawk, Bill Mollison, Geoff Lawton, 
> Marshall Rosenberg, Joanna Macy and other really well known 
> instructors.  My own background combines a very strong 
> knowledge of marketing and business (I've been starting 
> companies since I was 16) with a pretty solid grounding 
> in this work.   I've also spent time doing human rights 
> work in Palestine/Israel and bring quite an understanding 
> of the political layer into this work.   The result of all this is 
> a completely unique company -- we're doing something very 
> different with tremendous potential resulting. 
> 
> Our instructors are some of the most well-known folks in this 
> movement;  but because we cater to really mainstream audiences 
> my experience has 
> been that we simply do not need to provide 
> more information than what we provide on our website.  I am 
> also fiercely protective of the relationships I have 
> developed with our instructors over the last five years -- 
> and tend to simply shy clear of all the politics of this 
> movement. 
> 
> Providing less information is a very deliberate marketing tactic 
> on our part for two reasons:  the majority of the people who 
> sign up for our courses (90%+) never contact us once before 
> paying for the course on our website;  and the 10% who really 
> want their hands held, we want to e-mail us so we can then 
> really follow up with them and get them signed up. 
> 
> I hope this answers your questions! 
> 
> Much gratitude and love, 
> 
> 
> Vladislav 
> 
> -- 
> Vladislav Davidzon, CEO 
> Common Circle Education 
> www.commoncircle.com 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 5:55 AM, Udan Farm wrote: 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Does anyone know anything about CommonCircle  (commoncircle.com) in 
> > Berkley? 
> > They are promoting really expensive courses with no mention of who their 
> > teachers are or even a phone number, or "about us" page-so it's hard to 
> > tell 
> > who's running this place. 
> > There has been at least one other group lately promoting PDC's who have 
> > NO 
> > permaculture teacher, and I was just wondering about this group. 
> > ThanksIsa 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> 
> 
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