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[Dieter Brand <diebrand@yahoo.com>]

Rain,
 
We are at the bottom of a small valley at 250 meters above sea level; the top 
of our property is at 400 meters.  I don’t have the average temps, but from 
my own measurements: we get about 2 weeks with max. temps of around 100 F. 
With a clear sky (which is almost always during the summer) the temps drop to 
60 to 70 F at night.  The max. temps didn’t increase this year, but we 
already reached 85 F in March and still sometimes had 85 F in October.  
During the winter, we get about 2 weeks with light night frost with 25 to 30 
F when the sky is clear between mid Nov. and mid Feb. With cloudy sky, the 
temps usually don’t drop below 50 F at night.  Daytime temps in the winter 
are between 60 to 70 F.  We are about 10 miles inland from the Ocean.  People 
closer to the Ocean or who don’t live in a valley normally don’t get any 
frost at all.  In our valley, we had one year without frost in the last 10 
years.  This year is warmer than usual and it
 still doesn’t look like night frost.  We lost some of our citrus trees 
during a particularly cold year when the temps dropped to about 12 F for one 
or two nights.
 
I suspected that *waterline* wasn´t the correct English word, but didn’t have 
the time for checking, and still don’t (sorry).  It is the lowest line at the 
bottom of a valley where water may run for several days after strong rains.  
It is the place with the most humidity where underground water may flow even 
if no more water is visible at the surface.  We have one main valley and 
three little side valleys.
 
Dieter


--- On Mon, 12/7/09, Rain Tenaqiya <raincascadia@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Rain Tenaqiya <raincascadia@yahoo.com>
Subject: [permaculture] upland Mediterranean climate
To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 6:34 PM


Dieter,
 
What is your elevation and temperature regime?  We are at 1160 ft (350 
meters).  It usually gets down to around 22 F (-5 C) during the Winter, 
though it has probably gone down to 12 F (-11 C).  We get these Spring frosts 
that are unusually cold which are also unusually colder than the main valley 
below us for some reason that often destroy our stone fruit crops and things 
like potatoes.  In the Summer, we usually have around 14 days of temperatures 
over 100 F (38 C), typically getting to around 110 F (44 C).  Our average 
high is supposed to be 92 F (34 C), but I think it's been hotter since we 
moved here five years ago.  The Summer nights usually get into the 50s (10s 
in C), as we are 30 miles from the ocean which is epicenter of upwelling and 
the coldest ocean temperatures on the US West Coast.  This makes it hard for 
many fruits to ripen properly.  Kind of a weird climate, eh?
 
By the way, what is a waterline?  At our place, only the hardiest trees can 
survive the strategy you use.  I don't think I could get any fruit from 
unirrigated trees, except maybe for olives in the shade.  I still need to 
experiment with pushing the limits on drought tolerance, but for the price of 
most trees, it makes much more sense to give them all the love and care that 
they need to thrive.
 
Rain


      
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Just thought I would pass this article along, in case anyone can help-or 
needs fruit trees.
http://www.nctimes.com/business/article_3c533f06-18b7-57b4-a7ee-22dad6b4aefe.html
and website (see "Call for Help")

Peace,Isabel




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Its beautiful sky blue flowers are loved by bees and supposed to be
uplifting - freezing them in ice cubes to add to summer drinks looks
cheerful anyway.. (the flowers , not the bees!)
You can add the leaves to salads - they have a slightly cucumber taste.
The seeds are a source of essential fatty acids.
and not forgetting the old rhyme  "I , Borage , bring always courage"
which suggests the herbal properties.

Annie