permaculture

[<fdnokes@hotmail.com>]

Sorry, what I meant to note at the end was that it might be interesting to 
see how this idea could be modified to suit permaculture purposes.
Just a thought.
It seems to come from a place that celebrates science and scientists --  
scientism -- and which believes that no matter what, science will have the 
answer.
Sets off lots of  Warning signals for me.

f

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From: <fdnokes@hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 6:08 PM
To: "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [permaculture] vertical foods op-ed

> Not without its merits, this idea, but there is, as noted, a scary 
> ignorance
> in which it is couched.
> Hydroponics? What about the nutrition value there?
> Isn't this futuresque image of concern to people beyond us here on this
> list?
> Where is the celebration of man's connection with nature?
> The next thing you know, they'll invent a new evolution for humans: plug 
> in
> models.
>
> Still, worth seeing how this method might serve some sort of permaculture
> oriented purpose, if any.
>
> Fran
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Lawrence F. London, Jr." <lflj@bellsouth.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 5:33 PM
> To: "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: Re: [permaculture] vertical foods op-ed
>
> > Food Forests wrote:
> > > Date: Monday, August 24, 2009, 7:12 PM
> > > http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/24/opinion/24Despommier.html?_r=1
> > >
> > > By DICKSON D. DESPOMMIER
> > > IF climate change and population growth progress at their
> > > current pace, in roughly 50 years farming as we know it will
> > > no longer exist. This means that the majority of people
> > > could soon be without enough food or water. But there is a
> > > solution that is surprisingly within reach: Move most
> > > farming into cities, and grow crops in tall, specially
> > > constructed buildings. It’s called vertical farming.
> >
> > Its a nice idea to add this type of eco-living-food production system but
> > to say
> > that will be all that's left after 50 years is absurd and depressing.
> > Obviously the author is tapping hotbutton issues
> > and lacks any real interest in bio farming or agriculture in general,
> > probably knows very little about same.
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