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Today's Topics:

1. dead red wigglers... (lynnann)
2. Re: Water calculations (Darren Doherty)
3. Re: Water calculations (Benny H)
4. Fwd: WOOLWORTHS TAKE-OVER OF MACRO WHOLEFOODS
(Permaculture Cooperative)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 12:58:38 -0500
From: lynnann <lynnann@newnorth.net>
Subject: [permaculture] dead red wigglers...
To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
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John....

Here at my educational garden center, I champion a product for home vermi-composting, Can o' Worms (I keep two going all year long myself)...their recommendation is red wiggler species and when you read about this particular worm, you will find that these worms have one prime directive...eat organic matter....and "cast" out composted organic matter. Many other varieties are "aeration" worms..in that they live below ground and come to the surface for food and then return to their tunnels to eat and "cast". RW's live above ground. I would suggest you investigate the species and it will make more sense.

Now....the reason I mentioned they would not survive my winter was both informational for those who live in zones 3 and 2... and because we have no indigenous worms up here in the Northern Highland Forest and so wouldn't want to introduce a species that isn't native to the area that might survive to raise even more upheaval to our fragile under story. The non-native Canadian nigh crawlers and red worms are already raising havoc up here.

Hope that helps...but definitely check out Will's Growing Power website with the video of him talking about his vermi-composting efforts..love and peace..lynnann



Message: 4
Date: Sat, 11 Jul 2009 15:38:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Fritz <johnfritz77@yahoo.com>
Subject: [permaculture] dead red wigglers, was Moldy Compost
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I guess I am missing something.? Why would I want to use a species that dies back every winter if other more hardy species are available?
?
John Fritz, NW Arkansas.
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:15:31 -0500
From: "NewNorth" <lynnann@newnorth.net>
Subject: [permaculture] Was "moldy compost"
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heya all, please do check out Will Allen and Growing Power in Milwaukee, WI..?

He's the compost King and uses vermicomposting (as do I) to create the best growing soil possible.? We use red wigglers, as they are not hardy and die in the winter.? So...obviously, I say add red wigglers..Growing Power sells them and will ship anywhere I believe.

I had the honor to take his composting workshop, taught by him, and he's an amazing fellow.? check him out...love and peace...lynnann



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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:30:17 +0200
From: Darren Doherty <darren@permaculture.biz>
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Water calculations
To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
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G'day,

Thanks for the note...Please don't bother to send me money for this as:

1. Everything has already been paid for by a client....
2. Its part of our expression of Ethic #3

We appreciate the thought however and having checked the page I see this
hasn't been done so leave it at that.....There are plenty of folks round the
traps putting a lot more effort into such matters than I do (such as
LL!)....

All the best,

Darren Doherty



negiliblek wrote:
> Thanks Darren Doherty!
>
> This is an excellent example of using open source methods from the
software world in permaculture.
>
> ..which isn't about something for nothing!
>
> To give you proper credit, I'll put a sheet in the workbook called
Credits, put your name and website along with a link to the original google
spreadsheets.
>
> I'm also going to send you a $20 USD to show my gratitude and support > for
your spreadsheets.
>
> If all people behave in this manner, the best information gets out, > your
reputation either increases or decreases by the quality of your work (and
hence the amount of work and pay you get increases), and small donations
from around the world may add up to a small bundle to tide you over in slow
times.
>
> Thanks again for your forward thinking, your lack of fear of losing > money
by using open source methods, and promoting a new way of doing business
which cannot be monopolized.
>
> negk
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 19:13:32 +1000
From: Benny H <makesensi@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Water calculations
To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
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hi Marjory - have a google using darrens name/spreadsheet/water etc. you
should'nt have much trouble finding them. i believe they are online as
Google documents

On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 4:30 AM, Marjory <forestgarden@gvtc.com> wrote:

Where are the spreadsheets available? they sound really good.



negiliblek wrote:
> Thanks Darren Doherty!
>
> This is an excellent example of using open source methods from the
software world in permaculture.
>
> ..which isn't about something for nothing!
>
> To give you proper credit, I'll put a sheet in the workbook called
Credits, put your name and website along with a link to the original google
spreadsheets.
>
> I'm also going to send you a $20 USD to show my gratitude and support > for
your spreadsheets.
>
> If all people behave in this manner, the best information gets out, > your
reputation either increases or decreases by the quality of your work (and
hence the amount of work and pay you get increases), and small donations
from around the world may add up to a small bundle to tide you over in slow
times.
>
> Thanks again for your forward thinking, your lack of fear of losing > money
by using open source methods, and promoting a new way of doing business
which cannot be monopolized.
>
> negk
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 05:02:21 -0700
From: Permaculture Cooperative <permaculturecoop@gmail.com>
Subject: [permaculture] Fwd: WOOLWORTHS TAKE-OVER OF MACRO WHOLEFOODS
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Nicholas Roberts <nicholas@themediasociety.org>
Date: Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 5:01 AM
Subject: WOOLWORTHS TAKE-OVER OF MACRO WHOLEFOODS
To: Permaculture Cooperative <permaculturecoop@gmail.com>


this is a massive hole in the independent organic grocer market in
Australia, Macro Foods being bought-out by Woolworths
--
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Mullumaction Newsletter <noreply@mullumaction.org>
Date: Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 4:50 AM
Subject: dARCY LUNN AT BYRON TUESMACROETC
To: nicholas@themediasociety.org


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WOOLWORTHS TAKE-OVER OF MACRO WHOLEFOODS
From Victor von der Heyde, of Lane Cove, Sydney

Macro is, or was until recently, a big wholefoods and organic food chain
with nine stores or sites in Sydney and Melbourne. They were large stores,
had just organic fruit and veg and organic food cafes as part of the store.
Sadly Woolworths has bought eight of the nine stores, the stores are closing
this month (July) and will be reopened by Woolworths under their Thomas Dux
Grocer brand. It appears it's a move by Woolworths to simply buy out the
competition. What this means is that all the organic food cafes will be
closed and the offering of organic fruit and veg will be greatly reduced.
The Thomas Dux stores have a very small section of organic food and a large
section of non-organic fruit and veg. For people in many parts of Sydney,
where the Macro started, there will simply be less on offer in terms of good
organic fruit and veg.

The sale was said to be in the order of 30 million dollars and was subject
to approval by the ACCC. The Australian Consumers Association put in a
submission to the ACCC (see http://www.choice.com.au/files/f134967.pdf)
saying that the buyout would lead to less consumer choice but the sale was
still approved.

I practical terms, because Thomas Dux has some organic and lots of
non-organic, their policy is to put very large stickers on the organic food.
These stickers hold to the fruit very well but they're hard to get off and
they leave glue on the fruit which is resistant to ordinary detergent and
needs to be removed by heavy duty cleaners like Shellite, Dry Cleaning
Fluid, sticky spot remover or bathroom cleaners.

On another note, in Lane Cove because of Woolworths most recent attempt to
change its DA to give it a more prominent profile in the shopping precinct,
it has been headlined in the local paper as "The Fresh Feud People" (see
http://north-shore-times.whereilive.com.au/news/story/now-it-s-the-fresh-feud-people-tempers-flare-over-woolworths-lane-cove/
).


Thanks Victor for the info. Other contributors are welcome to send news via
the website.
In Canada I believe the fruit stickers have to be edible. That"s a campaign
we could have!

*
BUNDANOON BOTTLED WATER BAN *has reached USA and Reuters ? see article on
http://www.mullumaction.org. Manly in Sydney has filtered water available on
tap ? it would be great to have this in Mullumbimby and Byron Bay. Who"d
like to orgainise that campaign?

*
BLUESFEST AT TYAGARAH: *apparently the DA will be going in to council soon.
If the Bluesfest goes ahead at Tyagarah, Mullumbimby is the closest town and
will be heavily impacted. This newsletter could be a forum for discussion
about this event ? please send in your comments via our website. Rumour has
it that the local papers have been threatened with withdrawal of advertising
if they comment.

*
MULLUM COMMUNITY GARDENS: G*eoff Lawton and his Permaculture Research
Institute crew will be at the Mullumbimby Community Garden site on Wednesday
15th July, 1pm to peg out contours and site works. All welcome. Jeannette:
66844876.

*
GLOBAL POVERTY PROJECT BYRON BAY COMMUNITY CENTRE TALK AND SLIDESHOW *d"Arcy
Lunn has spent 9 years traveling around the world; Kyrgyzstan, Mongolia,
Canadian Arctic, Latin American, Eastern Africa, Ethiopia. He is now riding
his bike from Melbourne to Brisbane and giving talks on the way ? stopping
in Byron tomorrow Tues 14 July 5.30 ? 7 pm for an educational and fun
presentation. Emission free! See http://www.youtube.com/gppdarcy for more
info 0428 416 765 http://www.globalpovertyproject.com

*
LOCAL FOOD CO*-OP MEETING also tomorrow - at 6.30 pm at 1/1 Acacia St Byron
Arts and Industrial Estate. Contact: Techa Beaumont (techa@kulchajam.org)
0409318406

*
QUOTE: *"Many, many years ago, culture was ours. Bit by bit we lost control
of our own culture, and suddenly corporations are doing all the talking.
They"re telling all the stories. And bit by bit, the whole of our media
culture has become one large advertisement for a lifestyle of consumption.
And now the big job ahead is to start telling our own stories again, to get
dominion back over our culture. Kalle Lasn, Editor of Adbusters. Quoted in
Naked Ape to Superspecies: David Suzuki and Holly Dressel 1999.

Regards
Deb

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