permaculture

["Jordan Fink" <jordan@riseup.net>]

Doug fir was NOT here long before people...
it come during the end of the last ice age- possibly after the first
people were here.

-j



> It reminds me of language pursuits bemoaning the changes to languages and
> trying to preserve a "pure language", which is to say?turning a living
> language into a non-living language frozen at moment in time.? I notice
> that new plants appear in our forest garden all the time. many are useful,
> but?a few are problematic. The hard part is being intelligent and
> experienced enough to know when to leave nature alone and when to
> intervene and push it in a direction we want it to go.
>
> Larry
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rain Tenaqiya <raincascadia@yahoo.com>
> To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
> Sent: Tue, Jun 16, 2009 12:08 pm
> Subject: [permaculture] Toby's post on Autumn olive
>
>
>
> I don't know if Toby is trying to reignite the fiery debate on invasive
> plants,
> but I would argue for a more balanced approach to the topic.? Saying that
> Douglas-fir is not native to Cascadia is to redefine the term.? It was
> there
> long before people were, as far as I've ever heard.
> ?
> Also, making broad generalizations about plant succession is risky,
> whether
> invasive plants are involved (usually are) or not.? To say that invasive
> exotic
> plants do not displace natives without humun disturbance is to deny the
> chaotic
> and wondrous process of ecological succession.? Natives displace natives,
> so why
> can't exotic plants displace natives?? I see it frequently, without humun
> disturbance.? Sometimes, native plants displace exotic plants, too.? It's
> all a
> dance.
> ?
> Rain
> ?
>
>
>
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