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  • From: Nicholas Roberts <nicholas@themediasociety.org>
  • To: Tom Toogood <ecoed@dodo.com.au>
  • Cc: Peter Wood <drwoood@gmail.com>, John Shiel <jshiel@westnet.com.au>, William Vorobioff <wvorobioff@optusnet.com.au>, jesseekerjane@gmail.com, michael.schein@newcastle.edu.au, D <bocor@bigbutton.com.au>, Daniel Rossi <danielr@electroteque.org>, permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>, binnah pownall <binnahsun@gmail.com>, miltech@bigpond.com
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] bigger than Obama and Peak Oil
  • Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 22:33:19 +1100

Peak Debt
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Nicholas Roberts
[im] skype:niccolor




On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 9:58 PM, Tom Toogood <ecoed@dodo.com.au> wrote:
> Yes Nick, if we Permies miss showing the paths out of the financial crisis'
> causes like peak debt etc, as our no. 1 priority now, we'll miss the boat of
> relevance and influence.
> Evidence for this is: Transition Towns founder
> Rob Hopkins reported in UK Permaculture magazine (late in 2008)that a year
> or 2 after the TT project had first engaged the community in Totnes, a
> survey was made asking them, what elements of the TT package did you find
> the most memorable and impressive? (or very similar ques) and the most
> common answer was, "the local currency element" (not the new community
> gardens, or car-sharing, or the great workshops etc.)
> The local currency was a well researched (with help of an eco-economist at
> Schumaker college) improvement of the LETS system, with very impressive
> paper notes currency designed by a professional artist. Small businesses
> were
> Especially targeted and got involved well, so customers could buy their
> goods using the local currency, as well as the usual LETS community trading.
>
> I agree the peasant farmers movement may well deserve the front leadership
> position, they are not as subconsciously corrupted by years of capitalist
> consumption-mad decadence as most of us, although we try to move to higher
> ethics with Permaculture....but involvement of the ever-growing middle
> class, including Chinese and Indian, is essential, given their big balance
> of power in elections, and the TT movement is best chance yet of involving
> them.
>
> I'll ask Cheryl Kernot & the Bendigo Bank guy & local council community
> events officers re suitable expo/workshops dates.
> Cheers, Tom T
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: niccolo.roberts@gmail.com [mailto:niccolo.roberts@gmail.com] On Behalf
> Of Nicholas Roberts
> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 3:28 PM
> To: permaculture; Tom Toogood; John Shiel; binnah pownall;
> jesseekerjane@gmail.com; Daniel Rossi; D; Peter Wood
> Subject: bigger than Obama and Peak Oil
>
> for those involved in permaculture and sustainability type activism -
> can I suggest people broaden the concernes from Peak Oil and Climate
> Change - to Peak Debt, Fair Share and People Care
>
> strengthen the People Care and Fair Share as well as Earth Care
>
> consider the Op-Eds from the Ny Times and The Economists below;
>
> The World Social Forum
> Dear capitalists, admit you got it wrong
> Feb 5th 2009 | BELÉM
>
> Buoyed up by a crisis and with five presidents in attendance, the
> international left has ideas for fixing the world that a neoliberal
> might recognise
> http://www.economist.com/world/international/displayStory.cfm?story_id=13061
> 828&source=hptextfeature
>
>
> Slumdogs Unite!
>
> By FRANK RICH
> Published: February 7, 2009
>
> SOMEDAY historians may look back at Tom Daschle's flameout as a minor
> one-car (and chauffeur) accident. But that will depend on whether or
> not it's followed by a multi-vehicle pileup that still could come.
> Even as President Obama refreshingly took responsibility for having
> "screwed up," it's not clear that he fully understands the huge forces
> that hit his young administration last week.
>
> The tsunami of populist rage coursing through America is bigger than
> Daschle's overdue tax bill, bigger than John Thain's trash can, bigger
> than any bailed-out C.E.O.'s bonus. It's even bigger than the Obama
> phenomenon itself. It could maim the president's best-laid plans and
> what remains of our economy if he doesn't get in front of the mounting
> public anger.
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/08/opinion/08rich.html?_r=3
>
>
> --
> Nicholas Roberts
> [im] skype:niccolor
>
>
>




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