permaculture

[nicholas@themediasociety.org]

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: marc fawzi <marc.fawzi@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 02:30:22 -0800
Subject: Re: [p2p-research] Fwd: Where does the "lost" money go ? can
we find it and get it back ?
To: nicholas@themediasociety.org
Cc: Stan Rhodes <stanleyrhodes@gmail.com>, Michel Bauwens
<michelsub2004@gmail.com>, Thomas Greco -- thg <>, Peer-To-Peer
Research List <p2presearch@listcultures.org>, p2p-money-game
<p2p-money-game@googlegroups.com>

I'm interested in building and experimenting with P2P-enabled economic
models and software for PC/mobile for implementing those models.

As you may know, right now I'm working on this model:
http://p2pfoundation.net/P2P_Social_Currency_Model

We've started specifying the simulation scenarios and the step after that is
to code the software

When people have a tool that works as advertised and does something
dramatically better they will use it.

We are building one such tool. And there will be many.







On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 1:39 AM, <nicholas@themediasociety.org> wrote:

> cheers marc..
>
> check out http://transitionus.ning.com/ - the US branch of a global
> grass roots peak oil / climate change transition movement exploding in
> the US, AUs, UK right now ---- just about exploding as a mainstream
> process,.,. inspired by Permaculture education in the UK
>
> I wonder if Peak Debt could be folded into the Transition Towns
> *local, state, national" movements ? but what would the Peak Debt
> movement say ? how do we reform money ....
>
> local currencies ? what else ?
>
> dont we need to also challenge and dismantle such systems as the Fed,
> corporate finance, finance capitalism, financialisation etc etc
>
> or is simply creating a transition movement to an alternative system enough
> ?
>
> as michel says, this is researchable
>
>
> On 1/6/09, marc fawzi <marc.fawzi@gmail.com> wrote:
> > <<
> > IF the socioeconomic system were also
> > revised/reformed/evolved to be more equitable.  Right now, that AIN'T
> > going to happen.
> >>>
> >
> > Stan: I was waiting for someone to say this.
> >
> > It ain't if we continue to look at the state as some kind of parent or
> sheep
> > herder
> >
> > But it can happen if we get our head out of our ass and start taking
> > responsibility for our existence.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 12:04 AM, Stan Rhodes <stanleyrhodes@gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Kevin, added you in case something I said needs to be slapped around a
> >> bit.
> >>