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  • From: nicholas@themediasociety.org
  • To: p2presearch@listcultures.org, "permacultue discussion list" <pil-pc-oceania@lists.permacultureinternational.org>, permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: [permaculture] Transition movement for finance
  • Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 20:25:16 +1100

I agree with your sentiments Marc...

how bad does it need get before we actually get really serious about
the activism around the money system, about democratisation of
finance... the key to democratisation of our economy generally

the next big financial bubble coming down the geopolitical pipe are
not exactly trivial; carbon trading schemes, and ecosystems
services... the finance houses and big corporates, along with Al Gore
created these new markets, and the next boom and bubble is talked
about being greenhouse gas trading,... next it will be further
privatisation and financialisation of ecosystem services

we need an Inconvenient Truth for money and finance.. a Tranasition
Town movement for democratisation of finance... a James Hansen for
financialisation of crabon trading, ecosystem services

when these markets fail, we will lose more than money that doesnt exist...

for change we really can believe in *cough, splutter" we neead
education, organisation and activism

how can we have education when its so hard to explain ? we need
something highly credible, NOT Zeitgeist - even if its correct, by
default many folks wont believe it, An Inconvenient Truth is still
panned by the far right and other hard core denialists

>
> 1. Re: Fwd: Where does the "lost" money go ? can we find it and
> get it back ? (marc fawzi)
>

> IF the socioeconomic system were also
> revised/reformed/evolved to be more equitable. Right now, that AIN'T
> going to happen.
>>>
>
> Stan: I was waiting for someone to say this.
>
> It ain't if we continue to look at the state as some kind of parent or sheep
> herder
>
> But it can happen if we get our head out of our ass and start taking
> responsibility for our existence.
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 12:04 AM, Stan Rhodes <stanleyrhodes@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Kevin, added you in case something I said needs to be slapped around a
>> bit.
>>




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