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[Ray Cirino <cobanation@yahoo.com>]

  Just when you thought there was enough junk in your home, there's a 
junkyard tour to help stop the stream of waste to over seas. This one will 
teach you what to buy that lasts for ever and can be used for sustainability 
in your life. I'll show you where I go to buy special metals and weird shapes 
that can be put to good use. You'll find things you've never seen before and 
places you'd never go unless you join us. We'll be all together in one cool 
school bus which will be how we'll get around as a group someday on a regular 
basis.

When: June 21th 9:00 AM
Where: 3983 East Blvd.Mar Vista, CA 90066
What to bring: Gloves to rummage with and lunch. 
How much:$25 per person (10 people max)

Things we are looking for:
rooftop growing bends
radar dishes for solar cookers
water catchment and grey water parts
metal trellis parts for growing food
Burningman art projects
Water Woman sustainable art projects
Rocket stove and hot tub parts
The  gut impulse purchase and must have items
Collecting fun parts for Sara's furniture
misc.

Call:424-228-4797 to confirm, anyone wanting to drive there cars would be 
fine.

Look forward to big laughs,
Ray


      
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&nbsp; Just when you thought there was enough junk in your home, there's a 
junkyard tour to help stop the stream of waste to over seas. This one will 
teach you what to buy that lasts for ever and can be used for sustainability 
in your life. I'll show you where I go to buy special metals and weird shapes 
that can be put to good use. You'll find things you've never seen before and 
places you'd never go unless you join us. We'll be all together in one cool 
school bus which will be how we'll get around as a group someday on a regular 
basis.

When: June 21th 9:00 AM
Where: 3983 East Blvd.Mar Vista, CA 90066
What to bring: Gloves to rummage with and lunch. 
How much:$25 per person (10 people max)

Things we are looking for:
rooftop growing bends
radar dishes for solar cookers
water catchment and grey water parts
metal trellis parts for growing food
Burningman art projects
Water Woman sustainable art projects
Rocket stove and hot tub parts
The  gut impulse purchase and must have items
Collecting fun parts for Sara's furniture
misc.

Call:424-228-4797 to confirm, anyone wanting to drive there cars would be 
fine.

Look forward to big laughs,
Ray


      
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===I am on the list that had the original comment about organic
beekeepers not showing any signs of CCD...it was a comment/question,
and it has not actually been proven either way.  Comment was taken out
of context and folks ran with it, it seems.  (It came from a thread on
the organic beekeepers list on yahoogroups....it should be called the
small-cell afficianadoes list, to be fair and honest.)

                        Geoffrey Wendel