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[Claudia Joseph <permie@earthlink.net>]

Hi Rafter,
This post of yours caught my attention before the other more recent one.
Maybe you could talk about mushrooms at the next Open Center PDC.
It would be swell to see you here.

I appreciate your concerns and it is more than a little funny that mid  
way through my rants about bad PDC's last year I realized that I might  
be the worst PDC going.
Scott Pittman and I did discuss the short format before I put up the  
course.  He had concerns and we discussed those. And he did respond to  
your note before he read mine. He sent one off-list and we are in  
agreement.  To me, 90 hours or 120 hours - it is still just an  
introduction to the material.

I did not know if my format would work or not but I am telling you  
that last year it did.  Many of the students - even some who did not  
earn a certificate due to absences - are continuing to study and  
practice the material.  This stuff is actually useful!  So many people  
I met in CA were just holding the certificate and not doing anything  
with it.
Many students treat the PDC like a vacation (in my experience) but I  
will tell you that most of the people I taught really worked at  
integrating the principles into their lives.

The 9 Saturday ten hour format developed this way because this is the  
time that is available and NYC is the place we are in.  Everyone here  
is going full-on most of the time.  Weekends are precious moments and  
folks just cannot give up both days.  We celebrate both Jewish and  
Christian holidays here so that automatically limits the number of  
Saturdays that are available.  And 3 day weekends are out too -  
everyone leaves.  Summer - everyone leaves.  So 9 ten-hour days is  
what we have available.

I am completely interested in more courses happening in locations  
where the residents are unable to flee in the summer.  I have had my  
own complications due to aging parents. My Dad passed on last year and  
I go see my Mom pretty often.  I have a child in school and follow  
that calendar.  Where you are and who you are with will shape what  
your PDC looks like.  Making the bridge from privileged to  
underprivileged students requires effort and some patience.  I gave 7  
scholarships at my PDC. I try to be available to share my knowledge in  
a variety of circumstances - many of which are free.  Putting the  
emphasis on the PDC is a social status issue. People want the piece of  
paper.

I am so ready to talk about this - you know I have been since the  
gathering last summer.
And I am interested in what you are doing and learning and teaching.

Be well,
Claudia

On Apr 28, 2008, at 11:22 PM, rafter t. sass wrote:
> Hello Pc friends,
>
> So, I'm a wildly enthusiastic mycophile - foraging, cultivating,
> teaching...
>
> In my forays through internet mushroom land, I discovered one
> particular lunatic in Texas that is posting dangerously wrong
> information about wild mushrooms.
> Check
> http://www.slowmotiondoomsday.com/boletus.html
> for a stark example.
>
> God forbid somebody take him at his word - but unfortunately, with no
> other context or explanation, it's all to likely that someone will,
> or has already.
>
> I emailed him, and asked him to correct his wildly misinformed post.
> The email exchange is below. As you can read, much to my surprise he
> simply refused, apparently out of sheer pigheadedness.
>
> I'm hoping some others will find it in their conscience to take 30
> seconds and email this bozo and convince him to amend or take down
> his bad info. Feel free to be more or less diplomatic than me, as the
> spirit moves you.
>
> Thanks from me, and on behalf of novice and potential mycophiles
> everywhere.
>
> Best,
> rafter
>
> rafter t. sass
> The Liberation Ecology Project
> liberationecology.org
> 518-567-7407
> skype: raughter
>
>
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> > From: Rob Solarion <solarion@sbcglobal.net>
> > Date: April 26, 2008 4:07:30 PM EDT
> > To: "Rafter T. Sass" <rafter@thesociallandscape.com>
> > Subject: Re: Inquiry Champignons Gourmets
> >
> >
> > Thank you for writing, but I have no intention of removing those
> > mushroom web pages.  I clearly state that I am no "authority" on
> > mushrooms.  If someone sees my photos and eats a wild mushroom and
> > dies of poisoning, well, said person shouldn't have eaten it in the
> > first place.  That mushroom display was a rarity for Texas.  I have
> > seen nothing like it before or after.  The photos were meant for
> > their "artistry" not "edibility". Regards, Roberto
> >
> > > You are posting incomplete and sometimes just wrong information
> > > about wild mushrooms, in a way that is dangerous and irresponsible.
> > >
> > > For example, there are numerous varieties of Boletus that are
> > > POISONOUS - there have even been a few recorded deaths from
> > > Boletus poisoning.
> > >
> > > Really - don't let this information stay up on the web. Consult
> > > with an expert before posting information about potentially deadly
> > > foraging activities.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Rafter
> > >
> > > Rafter T. Sass - The Social Landscape
> > >    Design | Research | Education
> > >    for Resilient Productive Habitat
> > >    518 567 7407 | Skype: raughter
> >
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> >
> >                      http://www.slowmotiondoomsday.com/
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> >
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