permaculture

[Steve Diver <steved@ipa.net>]

OK, Harmon, at least you've posted 
what you're talking about.   

The following excerpt from David Blume
is a good indicator of hype:

"Dr. Pimentel is an entomologist, a studier 
of bugs, and Dr. Patzek is a physicist and 
engineer. Neither of them is trained in ecology. 
So they are straying far afield."

Ecology is embedded in entomological studies 
in the first place, but if you or Blume would 
actually dig into Pimentel's research 
you'd find plenty of reseach that supports
organic farming, sustainable agriculture,
and ecological systems. 

It's more hype from Blume to suggest that 
a scientist who has published over 400 journals 
accomplished this work *because* it was funded 
by "industry". 

I'll grant Blume credit for his detailed 
analysis of Pimentel's numbers on energy 
and ethanol.  

Steve Diver