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  • From: "Nancy Bracewell" <Cather39@bham.rr.com>
  • To: "'permaculture'" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] Urine against voles?
  • Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:29:24 -0600

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Subject: Re: [permaculture] Urine against voles?

Urine against voles?

I rekon the voles are gonna win (10-1), they can like run n everything ;-)

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Dieter Brand wrote:
> Thanks to all who replied.
>
> I heard about terriers, but I'm not sure I would want them to
> dig up my vegetable beds. Where can I buy mint oil?
> Drug store? Pharmacy?
> Repellent by odour is certainly something to follow.
> Fish and garlic are also options. I tried thuja branches,
> but that doesn't seem to deter them from a known feeding
> ground.
>
> Incidentally, since I used the diluted urine 2 days ago,
> they have stayed away from the salads, but went back
> to the artichokes instead.
>
> Dieter Brand
> Portugal
>
> Douglas Woodard <dwoodard@becon.org> wrote:
> Dieter, I have no experience dealing with this problem.
>
> Have you any experience with terriers? It strikes me that you need
> something with a good nose.
>
> I lived for while on Amherst Island in Lake Ontario which was overrun
> with voles and had been for many years. It struck me that the island
> seemed to lack large snakes, which are well known as enemies of voles,
> possibly because it had been heavily cultivated and populated in the past.
>
> I have known an apple grower to use a sudden abundance of medium sized
> snakes (garter snakes) as an indication that he needed to do something
> about his vole population. Snakes need winter shelter from frost among
> other things.
>
> Chickens are great mulch sifters and enemies of voles. Baby mice are
> tiny and helpless, ideal chicken snacks.
>
> Doug Woodard
> St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada
>
>
> Dieter Brand wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Does anybody know whether urine is effective for
>> repelling voles? Voles are supposed to have a very
>> sensitive sense of smell and seem to avoid anything
>> with a human odour on it.
>>
>> At what ratio is urine diluted when used in the garden?
>> Is it used immediately or do I a let it sit for a while?
>> For how long is the repellent effect likely to last, if
>> there is one?
>>
>> This is rather urgent, the buggers finish off one
>> salad after the other before I get a chance to harvest
>> any. In the summer they destroyed almost all of my
>> sweet potatoes. I bought 10 sweet potatoes to grow
>> more than 100 seedlings. When I harvested last week,
>> all I got was 5 sweet potatoes. At this rate I might
>> as well give up or use poison.
>>
>> Dieter Brand
>> Portugal
>>
>> PS: I use no-till with mulch, which doesn't help in
>> detecting the voles.
>>
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