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  • From: Albert Lee <albertcclee@yahoo.com>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] Looking for good examples of the use of berms and swales &...
  • Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 10:24:10 -0700 (PDT)

Dear S&M and M. Elvin,

Adding sand to clay will actually make the clay harder when it dries out.
Plus the cost and labor of trucking in sand is very energy intensive. The
best way to plant on clay soil is to keep the soil moist with a thick mulch.
Good luck.

Albert

----- Original Message ----
From: "Marimike6@cs.com" <Marimike6@cs.com>
To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 10:02:22 AM
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Looking for good examples of the use of berms and
swales &...

S&M,
You complain that your veggies "sulk and fail" in your heavy clay soil. Do
you have access to any free sand in the neighborhood? If you're talking about
just putting in a small vegetable garden, I would consider trucking in a
couple
of loads of sand and tilling them in thoroughly. While you're doing that it
will be easy to berm it into raised beds.

I suspect the problem is not with your dirt's organic content, but just the
fact that the glue you're trying to grow stuff in is drowning the new
rootlets,
depriving them of air. Give it a try, and see what comes up.

M. Elvin
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