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Re: [permaculture] [permaculture -ancient culivated forest
- From: ed sarten <esarten@yahoo.com>
- To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [permaculture] [permaculture -ancient culivated forest
- Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 18:11:28 -0700 (PDT)
Is the amazon and other forests on this continent really uncultivated before
Columbus ? Not according to Charles Mann's recent book 1491.His studies show
that native americans have been cutting, clearing,burning,
planting,developing and cultivating these ancient forests for thousands of
years in a somewhat fukioka style.Many of our modern fruits and nuts come
from this lengthy process.
Toby Hemenway <toby@patternliteracy.com> wrote: On 4/22/07 11:58 PM,
"Lawrence F. London, Jr." quoted:
>> On Gaia's Gardening, I suggest you read the intensely critical
> review by G. Williams--
>> on www.google.com --look for "Book Review: Gaia's Garden." Then
> look at Toby
>> Hemenway's response at www.google.com --look for "PC Slammed in
> Whole Earth Review" where Hemenway conceeds most of the critics points
Now that's a truly bizarre statement, enough to make me want to join the
Fukuoka Farming list just to refute it. My rebuttal of William's review
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0GER/is_2001_Winter/ai_81790196
begins:
"Greg Williams has written a passionate, articulate and--to the
non-ecologist--persuasive critique of permaculture. So persuasive, in fact,
that it sent me scampering to a basic ecology text to confirm that his
central premise--that meadows and farms are more productive than forests--is
completely wrong. His other claims--that my book is based on wishful
thinking rather than research, and that there are no data to support
permaculture--are equally incorrect."
If that's conceding most of his points, I'll eat my hat.
Toby
http://patternliteracy.com
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[permaculture] [Fwd: [fukuoka_farming] Greg Williams' critique of Permaculture],
Lawrence F. London, Jr., 04/23/2007
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Re: [permaculture] [Fwd: [fukuoka_farming] Greg Williams' critique of Permaculture],
Toby Hemenway, 04/23/2007
- Re: [permaculture] [permaculture -ancient culivated forest, ed sarten, 04/23/2007
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Re: [permaculture] [Fwd: [fukuoka_farming] Greg Williams' critique of Permaculture],
Toby Hemenway, 04/23/2007
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