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  • From: Paul Cereghino <paul.cereghino@comcast.net>
  • To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [permaculture] Soil Question
  • Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 21:27:44 -0700

perhaps he removed the plastic, all the tons of grass seed in the horse manure sprouted, so he freaked and sprayed the whole mess with roundup... :) I suspect we'd need more info to speculate...
Determine if the grass is rhizomatous or not.
Determine if the dense dead grass is alive or dead (examine root mass.. new shoots)
Call up the landowner and find out what he saw and did.
What time of year did all these events happen, and what time of year is now for you
What do you want the site to become in the future?
If using temp plastic coverings I'd recommend some of that woven weed fabric... you can get 5 years out of it if your are carefull, they are often made out of recycled plastic fiber... and it passes gasses and water better than plastic.
Post some digital pictures online (blogger works well for this..)

Primal Parent wrote:


hello. we have a soil dilemma and hope someone out there can help us out.

two autumn's ago we attempted to sheet mulch a large (future) garden space. we laid down cardboard, leaves, horse manure, and straw and then covered everything with a sheet of black plastic hoping it would be ready for the spring.

over the winter we decided to move elsewhere first and after arriving here (a year late) we have discovered the area can be best described as "choked with dense dead grass." the landowner removed the black plastic but we are unsure if he tried to seed it or not (the only explaination we can think of). the actual soil underneath it, however is dark, rich and lush.

so our question is do we till the grass under/into it? or should we attempt to remove the "top layer" meaning the grass and whatever roots we can manage?

we can't understand why there is a large light-brown rectangle where the soil underneath is near perfect.

any advice?

-roman

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